Hi Hugh,

On Sun, Aug 13, 2023 at 04:12:18PM -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk wrote:
> I'm just setting up a debian system for the first time in a long while.
> (I'm typing this on my new debian system.)
> 
> The initial user that I created is automatically in many important groups:
>       cdrom
>       floppy
>       sudo
>       audio
>       dip
>       video
>       plugdev
>       netdev
>       bluetooth
>       lpadmin
>       scanner
>       silly  <== the user gets its own group
> 
> When I do an adduser for "hugh", I get only two groups:
>       users
>       hugh
> 
> Why was "silly" not put into group "users"?
> 
> Why was "hugh" not put into all these empowering groups?

This is new in Bookworm, and I hadn't noticed it until you brought this up. You 
need to edit /etc/adduser.conf. For Bullseye, and as long as I can remember 
before that, EXTRA_GROUPS="dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev users". 
However, as a result of your question I've discovered that /etc/adduser.conf 
has been changed, and now EXTRA_GROUPS="users" in my Bookworm system. 

It seems that ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS has changed, too. It is 1 on a Bullseys system 
but 0 on Bookworm. This does not to appear to have prevented my users from 
being added to "users", though.

> 
> Is there a magic shortcut to getting hugh added to all these groups?

Don't know about a magic shortcut, but here is the command to add groups to a 
user:

$ sudo usermod -a -G "group1,group2,group3,....,groupN" hugh

[snip]

> What's the normal way of adding users?  I read debian documentation

Indeed, it is adduser, but with /etc/adduser.conf modified to suit your needs. 
I have no idea why this change was made in Debian.

All the best,

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