I have a Toshiba 32L1350UC TV from 2013..and have done OTA for 10 years. On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 15:48, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is the walmart.ca link for an antenna? > for the record, my set is a Toshiba 32af43. > My goal is swiftness. If I can walk into a store, buy an option, try it > out, and return it if it fails, I prefer this. > the investment is worth it, especially as I have nothing at all right now. > > > > On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Don Tai wrote: > > > you may, of course, buy an antenna and try it. Of all your tech issues, > the > > antenna will be, by far the easiest to do. It will either work or not. > You > > will get channels to watch or not. It is also reversible, so there is > very > > little risk. > > > > On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 15:34, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Don, > >> Let me be forthright, > >> between not being able to use a phone in my house in spite of paying for > >> it, losing access to my main gmail account, fighting bell for an > >> accessible phone, not being able to work fully because I have no land > >> line, > >> falling behind on rent, as a result, and fighting Canada post... I > >> need solid > >> solutions. > >> 1. can such an Antenna be bought, instead of constructed, and if so > where? > >> Evan referenced a loop. > >> 2, if that is not possible, before I lose time awaiting sighted help to > >> construct an Antenna, can that be made clear? > >> I would rather buy a solution that gives me many choices then construct > >> one if I can. > >> Especially since hook up a temporary antenna is where I am lost. > >> Kare > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Don Tai wrote: > >> > >>> first hook up a temporary antenna, put it near your window, scan your > TV > >>> and see how many channels you can get. > >>> > >>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 15:20, Karen Lewellen <[email protected] > > > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I still have the box, but have not been a rogers customer since 2017 > or > >>>> so. > >>>> you are suggesting that I can use the box for the digitization > process? > >>>> plugging things into the rogers box? > >>>> or use the port for cox to plug in this antenna? > >>>> if so that will be magical, as I have both cable, and know where that > >> port > >>>> is! > >>>> and the antenna, if I want to buy one is in the walmart.ca link? > >>>> that referenced HDMI, will check that..this is becoming quite > >>>> sensational! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Don Tai wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> There should be a specific port just for "antenna" or "ANT", a coax > >> cable > >>>>> port, or the port that you plug in your Rogers cable. Unplug your > >> Rogers > >>>>> cable and plug in your antenna. It should not affect your other > ports. > >>>> You > >>>>> should not need to change anything else. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 13:13, Karen Lewellen < > [email protected] > >>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Don, > >>>>>> Can you be more specific about the digital TV side? > >>>>>> My Toshiba is quite fancy, however I have a number of converter > units > >>>>>> that may bridge the gap. > >>>>>> have wondered if I connected an antenna to a spot for one on the set > >> if > >>>>>> that > >>>>>> would do the trick. > >>>>>> or if I reconnected one of the existing digital converter units I > >> have, > >>>>>> got them from both radio shack and the source years back, if that > >> might > >>>>>> do the trick.. > >>>>>> Going to check my TV manual, as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Don Tai via talk wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I've been using Over the Air OTA TV for 10 years now, and have been > >>>> happy > >>>>>>> with the free service. The digital signals are uncompressed, > >> providing > >>>>>>> visibly higher quality images than Rogers (My Mum's service). I > >> receive > >>>>>> 17 > >>>>>>> digital channels, Southern Ontario and Buffalo, despite my > >> neighbour's > >>>>>>> large evergreen. OTA works well during clear, rain and snow storms, > >> but > >>>>>> may > >>>>>>> go out during foggy weather. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You will need a digital TV (slim width one), and an antenna. The > >>>> antenna > >>>>>>> can be as simple as a coat hanger, but a better one will get you > more > >>>>>>> stations. Simply attach the antenna to your TV, place the antenna > >> near > >>>> a > >>>>>>> window and rescan your TV with the antenna option and presto, free > >>>>>>> digital uncompressed TV stations will magically appear. There is no > >>>> cost. > >>>>>>> If you dislike it you just rescan your TV to cable. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> tvfool.com will generally tell you in which direction to point > your > >>>>>>> antenna, though downtown there may be signal bouncing off nearby > >>>>>> buildings, > >>>>>>> so you might need to experiment. A free TV guide is available at > >>>>>>> https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/ just put in your postal code, > >> antenna, > >>>>>>> "Local Over the Air Broadcast" and a schedule appears. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 04:07, Evan Leibovitch via talk < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> One option available to some cord cutters is going back to the > >>>> antenna. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have one on my rooftop and it does quite a good job of picking > up > >>>>>>>> Toronto and Buffalo channels, which I find preferable to the > >> Robellus > >>>>>>>> options for two reasons: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - The off-air signal is not compressed so it can be noticeably > >>>>>> sharper > >>>>>>>> than cable or satellite > >>>>>>>> - The cable/dish options usually get their US feeds from > Detroit > >> or > >>>>>>>> Boston or some such; Buffalo local news and weather will be > more > >>>>>> relevant > >>>>>>>> to me > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This isn't just limited to people with their own houses. A good > >> small > >>>>>> UHF > >>>>>>>> antenna can also work well from an apartment building, especially > if > >>>>>> you're > >>>>>>>> south-facing. I once lived on an upper floor in a St. Jamestown > >> tower > >>>>>>>> (Wellesley/Parliament) and my reception was outstanding with just > a > >>>>>> simple > >>>>>>>> loop. A really good website for determining what you can get at > your > >>>>>>>> location is tvfool.com. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I use these channels mainly for local news, sports and weather. > Most > >>>>>>>> actual programming can be found on the web, either through a > >>>>>> subscription > >>>>>>>> to a service like Crave or ... there are other paths > >>>>>>>> < > >>>>>> > >>>> > >> > https://www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how-to-geek-guide-to-getting-started-with-usenet/ > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>> I also have a tuner called an HDHomerun that takes antenna input > and > >>>>>>>> provides it through your home network (ie, accessible to your PCs > >> and > >>>>>>>> phones) so you don't even need a coax-input TV. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Of course you can in theory receive over the air channels using an > >>>>>> antenna > >>>>>>>>> and an ATSC tuner, but if you are in a basement that seems > unlikely > >>>> to > >>>>>> work. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> For the expense of a simple loop > >>>>>>>> < > >>>>>> > >>>> > >> > https://www.amazon.ca/Antenna-Indoor-Amplified-Digital-Miles-Support/dp/B0BWDSXVLG/ref=sr_1_20 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- some are available for under $25, and you can return it if it > >>>> doesn't > >>>>>>>> work -- if you're close enough to the CN Tower you might be > >> surprised. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> - Evan > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 12:23 AM Karen Lewellen via talk < > >>>>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>> If I could get the digital box, without having to use a modem, I > >>>> would > >>>>>>>>> likely be fine, because the digital box would tap into the > >> existing > >>>>>>>>> blanket internet wireless wise would it not? > >>>>>>>>> In fact that was my landlord's idea adding an extra receiver to > his > >>>>>>>>> account, for which I would pay the rental, as it is just on > another > >>>>>> floor. > >>>>>>>>> I am curious how the antenna idea works, I am above ground for > the > >>>> area > >>>>>>>>> where my television sits, so perhaps? what do I need? > >>>>>>>>> Oh boy does my television have optical outs..in spades > >>>>>>>>> The DVD player has an HDMI port, I imagined connecting the cable > >> box > >>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> this, and since the set is connected to the player it would be > >>>> enough. > >>>>>>>>> I still have my old Roger's digital cable box, the one they > >> provided > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> older televisions as well. > >>>>>>>>> wish I had fewer trees, not only is satellite less complex, from > >> bell > >>>>>>>>> there > >>>>>>>>> are channels automatically provided with audio description for > >> the > >>>>>>>>> blind > >>>>>>>>> enabled..they do not provide this for Fibe. > >>>>>>>>> Kare > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 08:09:47PM -0500, Karen Lewellen via > talk > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi folks, > >>>>>>>>>>> before simply saying you avoid television, Part of what I do > >>>>>>>>> professionally > >>>>>>>>>>> means accessing a great deal, news channels and other things > for > >>>>>>>>> example. > >>>>>>>>>>> And for me, the, I will just watch it on my computer is a > nailed > >>>> shut > >>>>>>>>> door. > >>>>>>>>>>> This entire property is Bell fibe saturated which while it > might > >>>>>>>>> translate > >>>>>>>>>>> to one of their fibe TV boxes working for me, its almost > December > >>>> and > >>>>>>>>> I am > >>>>>>>>>>> no closer to my land line solution..even with photographs of > the > >>>>>>>>> existing > >>>>>>>>>>> jacks. > >>>>>>>>>>> So,I am wondering if at all, it is still possible from anyone > to > >>>>>>>>> simply find > >>>>>>>>>>> old fashioned cable box cable. > >>>>>>>>>>> I have all the rest of the equipment, and it all works..even my > >>>> VCR. > >>>>>>>>>>> I am even wondering if, since the place is so saturated for > >>>> wireless, > >>>>>>>>> if I > >>>>>>>>>>> got an older apple TV, third gen still had optical connectors, > >> or a > >>>>>>>>> rocku, I > >>>>>>>>>>> could come up with something. not as good as regular cable, > but I > >>>> am > >>>>>>>>>>> grasping for ideas. > >>>>>>>>>>> thoughts? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Bell's Fibe service has only ever worked with their boxes. > Rogers > >>>>>> cable > >>>>>>>>>> has been moving to all digital over the last quite a few years, > >> and > >>>>>>>>>> analog cable (that a VCR could directly tune) has been gone for > a > >>>>>> while, > >>>>>>>>>> with everything going digital. They even gave people free > little > >>>>>> boxes > >>>>>>>>>> for a while to connect to older TVs that could tune the basic > >>>> digital > >>>>>>>>>> channels but I don't think they even do that anymore. I think > >>>>>>>>> everything > >>>>>>>>>> now involves a digital cable box. On top of that they have been > >>>>>> moving > >>>>>>>>>> to IP based systems (Rogers Ignite) for a number of years and I > >>>> doubt > >>>>>>>>>> they would install the legacy digital cable anymore for new > >>>> accounts. > >>>>>>>>>> Definitely no analog cable left anymore. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Of course you can in theory receive over the air channels using > an > >>>>>>>>>> attenna and an ATSC tuner, but if you are in a basement that > seems > >>>>>>>>>> unlikely to work. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> So unfortunately as far as I can see, the only things you can > get > >>>>>> these > >>>>>>>>>> days is Bell Fibe or Rogers Ignite, both of which require using > a > >>>> box > >>>>>>>>>> from the respective company and only outputs HDMI. VCRs won't > do > >>>>>>>>> anything > >>>>>>>>>> with that, and older TVs won't either. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The streaming method might work, although if you were looking to > >> get > >>>>>>>>>> access to local TV stations, I have no idea if any of the > >> streaming > >>>>>>>>>> services offer that. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> As far as I can find, some of the Bell Fibe boxes have optical > >> audio > >>>>>>>>> out. > >>>>>>>>>> The Rogers Ignite boxes do not appear to have it. Of course > some > >>>> TVs > >>>>>>>>>> also have optical audio out, so it might not have to be optical > >> out > >>>> on > >>>>>>>>>> the box you are receiving with, if the TV has that. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Len Sorensen > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>>> Post to this mailing list [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> Unsubscribe from this mailing list > >>>>>>>>> https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Evan Leibovitch, Toronto Canada > >>>>>>>> @evanleibovitch / @el56 > >>>>>>>> --- > >>>>>>>> Post to this mailing list [email protected] > >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe from this mailing list > >>>>>>>> https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >
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