On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Dell Sala wrote: > > The other possibility is to look into existing DataObject frameworks > that have already implemented the fancy stuff for you. I've used > PEAR's DB_DataObject. It's a bit of a pain to get up an running, but > it's solid. There are quite a few others -- here are a few: > > http://pear.php.net/package/DB_DataObject/ > http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/ > and CakePHP implements its own ActiveRecord http://cakephp.org/ >
I was gonna say -- but didn't, for brevity's sake -- that I have spent several+ hours with Cake, and it does seem mighty cool, yet I've run into enough snags to wonder about the name. Like findAll() not fetching the data that I need and having to write custom SQL anyway. Then I looked at DB_DataObject and quickly noticed the pain part that you refer to. I realize I don't quite get it and that's surely part of my problem, but still I think the docs and examples on http://pear.php.net/manual/en/package.database.db-dataobject.php are kind of abstruse. I might end up coming full circle and hand-coding a lot of stuff. I recall the words of one great sage on this list: "SQL is a language. Love it." --- David Mintz http://davidmintz.org/ En Nueva York el tránsito de la belleza a la desolación sucede siempre expeditivamente, como si el principio universal de máxima eficiencia hubiera aconsejado la supresión de gradaciones intermedias. -- Antonio Muñoz Molina, Ventanas de Manhattan _______________________________________________ New York PHP Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online http://www.nyphpcon.com Show Your Participation in New York PHP http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
