At 4:56 PM -0500 1/13/07, Ken Downs wrote:
tedd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Do you see the common thread here? There are things you have control
 over and there are things that you don't -- and, you don't have much
 control over the net. So, if you're going to work on the net, then
 stop worrying about your code, let clients do what they want (in most
 cases they don't know anyway), and get on with your life.

 Sure, you can (and should) address the ownership aspect of your work
 product in your contracts, but realize that it's nearly a moot point
 when it comes to enforceability.


Tedd, overall well put, but I would add one more detail. Sometimes its not about enforceability but about expectations. A contract, like a lock, only keeps honest people honest. But just as a lock says, "you need permission to enter here", a contract stating ownership of code indicates to the customer what kind of relationship you expect. I can think of two cases where this came in very handy for me. In one case the client objected strongly to a clause in my contract, which hit to the very base of how I worked. Ultimately I had to let that one go, as i figured he'd be an unprofitable customer. But what if the contract had not raised this point, we went forward, and then discovered how far apart we were in expectations?

In a similar case the contract caused my client to ask a lot of detailed questions that gave us a better understanding of each other's position, and we have worked well together.


Yes, I agree totally and that's the reason why I said that you should address those concerns in your agreement, in whatever form that may be.

Without exception, I always spell out what's important to me and try to explain in clear detail to the client as to what their rights and obligations are. I do this only for clarification and not for "under threat of law suit".

You see, I spent over 20 years in continuous overlapping lawsuits -- while I made more money than I should have, it took it's toll and I never want to be in anther law suit in my life. You don't like doing business with me, or want your money back -- here it is. In fact, almost all my work is paid on approval. But, don't tell anyone that. :-)

tedd
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