That is absolutely true, mostly. If the user does a lot of selecting of text in Design mode and then applies numerous styles one can get back mixed up overformatted output from Dreamweaver. But, I've noted that the application has gotten pretty smart about consolidating redundant overlapped styles. And, yes, if you let Dreamweaver write code for you (like rotating divs or a menu), it will dish out some indecipherable clogged up language. I never use that stuff myself. But, I feel that every time I have seen a project with the automatic MM code snippets, they are good, solid, and cross platform.
Meanwhile, I'd like to take a moment to thank all the fine people who brought us "jquery". As of late I am trying to use jquery for everything. And the cross platform, browser independent nature of it seems awesome. Seems over the last two years that client side scripting has just broken out into fresh new heights and every cool, gee-whiz gimmick (slideshows, dissolves, zoom, drag and drop, sort, mapping) that used to take days or weeks to painstakingly sculpt can be knocked out in 15 min. and work just excellently. Warmest regards, Peter Sawczynec Technology Dir. blūstudio 941.893.0396 p...@blu-studio.com www.blu-studio.com -----Original Message----- From: talk-boun...@lists.nyphp.org [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.nyphp.org] On Behalf Of Chris Snyder Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:35 PM To: NYPHP Talk Subject: Re: [nyphp-talk] PHP hosting and standard tool-chain for newbie? 2009/4/23 Peter Sawczynec <p...@blu-studio.com>: > This list tends to beat up on Dreamweaver all the time. But, note I am > not suggesting that Dreamweaver is to be used to code or manage complex > PHP web applications. > > But for creating web sites / web pages, I have not come across a better > turned out user interface than Dreamweaver. Mozilla Composer was my personal favorite. All of the editing features and a clean professional GUI, for free. Wrote beautiful code, too. I'm currently converting a site with ~400 obsessively Dreamweavered pages, and I'm seeing spaghetti code that makes MSHTML look well-formed. We're talking <font><b><br></b><font></font></font> here, in every possible nesting combination. And I can't just tidy out the font tags, because font size was used instead of <h2> and <h3> for headings. Dreamweaver's main strength, to me, was its ftp client. Much easier to use than WS_FTP or Fetch or even modern clients like WinSCP or Transmit. But as an editor for markup? Harmful. _______________________________________________ New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php _______________________________________________ New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php