A little bird told me that top-posting == bad :) And Mitch, I think you are a little overqualified for the NBC gig...
David -- As a former ASP/VB Programmer, I took tons of flak for not being a "real programmer" as you mentioned occurs ... to which I used to respond, do the numbers on this paycheck look REAL to you? Hmm... That's why I'm happy to give Drupal a shot...it's where the market is, and if there's one thing I've learned in the IT field it's where the market goeth...there goeth I. That's why I ditched Microsoft like a boring blind date when they started the .NET nonsense...I'm just that kind of gal. :) - Kristina > > As a former developer and contributor to the original core of Thrillist.com > (built with Drupal 5.x), I can safely say that it is the wrong technology > for a lot of websites. It may be great for what Mitch stated, "community > sites" but other than that it is a failure in many respects. Even with 6.x > there are major scalability issues and most of the major modules available > have poor contribution support which means when they break you are S.O.L. > (but that is with any Open Source software and I won't go on because Drupal > gave me a venue to start my career). > > My big concern is that these companies consider products like Drupal a > "framework" when they are not, especially NBC. Many of our careers start > with different pieces of technology, mine started with Drupal and I have on > since then and have been working heavily with CakePHP and I can easily > duplicate many of Drupal's modules quite easily within a few hours. It is > all relative to your position at the time, and if you are making money using > Drupal, who cares what anyone else says. > > Also Mitch, viva la Vi! ;) > > -Anthony > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Mitch Pirtle <mitch.pir...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hey Webmaster, > > > > I'm a Joomla founder so I should be as biased as they come. My only > > complaint about Drupal is folks calling it a framework, which it is > > not. > > > > That aside, Drupal is experiencing huge growth and many developers are > > taking advantage of it as their base platform for developing sites. A > > strength is community sites, where Drupal's flexibility really shines. > > > > I suspect this person you are referring to (the offending Tweeter, er, > > Twit) is just a troll starting up another tired round of vi-vs- emacs, > > linux-vs-osx, and so on... Drupal is great, and to be blunt, ALL > > current frameworks, platforms and languages have reached a level of > > maturity that you choose what fits the way you like to think, and like > > to code. > > > > -- Mitch > > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:12 AM, <webmas...@vbplusme.com> wrote: > > > Hello NYPHP, > > > > > > I have seen a few posts here about DRUPAL and decided to take a look > > > at it to see if it might be useful for some of my projects. > > > > > > I noticed a few days ago that someone did a Twitter post and said that > > > DRUPAL is what you use when you are a "failed" programmer. From what I > > > can see so far, DRUPAL seems to be a "core" that pretty much takes > > > care of all the "busy work" that you would normally have to spend huge > > > amounts of time on if you were programming a site from scratch, i.e. > > > user authorization, permissions, etc. etc. I don't see that this makes > > > for the argument that anyone who uses it is a "failed" programmer and > > > if that is indeed true, what makes cumbersome frameworks like CAKE or > > > equivalent software not fall into the same "failed" programmer > > > category. > > > > > > I realize that this was a "shoot from the hip" comment but would > > > really like to hear other opinions about it. So far, I don't see the > > > correlation between DRUPAL and "failed" programmer, what am I missing? > > > > > > TIA for any comments. > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > Webmaster mailto:webmas...@vbplusme.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List > > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > > > http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation > > > > > > -- > Anthony W. > ant92...@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ New York PHP Users Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/Show-Participation