On 01/24/2012 12:23 PM, Christopher R. Merlo wrote:

Justin is, as usual, correct about all of this.  But as someone who's been
involved in CS curriculum design at the associates level for going on 12
years now, the problem -- at least for us at the community college level --
is that we can only make our students take 66 credits, of physics and music
and English and all the other stuff, along with CS and math.  I would love
to offer our CS students a course on these software engineering topics,
like source control and unit tests and how to do a code review, but not at
the expense of assembly or linear algebra, and SUNY won't let us do it at
the expense of sociology or art.  (That's not a complaint; I think the
curriculum *should* be well-rounded.  We just don't have space.)
-c

I won't argue, and I have a SUNY-Regent's College degree. However, I think this more points out that we need to move out of traditional "college" education and forward to something new or backward to apprenticeships or something else.

The cost of college no longer meets the "increased income" myth, if it ever did. In hiring discussions my degrees have meant much less than respected certifications and experience.

So Gary, I suggest you proceed with your book and dedicate a forum or other interactive website. Maybe use Moodle? Develop your plan, test it with others, and then charge a hundred or so bucks for the learning and access to the member's forum. I'd probably join.

Leam

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