Hi, > Really guys, what are you talking about? Now you code once and it > works in all browser, I wish things where this easy 10 years ago! > Browser improved a lot if you consider standards, compatibility, > performances and security (less virus, adware)!
I think you raise a good point - there's a difference between quality and capability. While the capabilities of browsers have certainly increased as front-end technologies have matured (Javascript, HTML, CSS of course), the quality of the browser software itself has suffered. And David, as you point out - the whole release-early/release-often mantra is a good one, stemming from open source. Now, unfortunately, it appears to have become more of a marketing tool for releasing poor quality software. H > On May 11, 2012, at 5:19 PM, David Krings <ram...@gmx.net> wrote: > > > On 5/11/2012 3:36 PM, Hans Zaunere wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> So, in a mix of rant-and-feedback-gathering - is it just me, or have > >> browsers largely gone downhill in the last few months? > >> > > > > Hi! > > > > During the past few months? It is like that for quite longer. > > > > FF 4 and higher just sucks, the UI is horrible and the switch from 3.6 > to 4 broke a lot of things that are still not fixed....unless you happen > to know the add-on that unfixes the 'fixes'. I also get the impression > that the Mozilla folks got way more arrogant. They use to be thankful > for constructive criticism or had at least a good reason for why things > are the way they are. Now they ignore any user input and if a response > comes along it is typically along the lines of "Go away!" > > You can escape the rapid updating (which Google started with for no > reason) by installing the FF10 ESR build. That branch is back to the > old, reasonable update schedule. > > > > > > Chrome is IMHO crap from the start and it did not get any better. Yes, > it loads pages faster and uses less memory, but it also doesn't do > anything other than that. I also like some UI with my fat client. > > > > IE is very dependent on the local settings, when they are a bit > harsher than mildly restrictive a lot of things just stop working. It > also get the impression as if we are back to being forced to IE-only > development dragging around different code for IE while the typical code > works just fine everywhere else. > > > > Opera is technically nice and can do a lot of things, but I find it > utterly kludgy to use. Safari is like Chrome, a lot of sauce with not > much meat. > > > > > > As far as getting things to work the way I want I still have most > success with FF followed by Chrome. I tend to not try it with Opera and > IE and Safari are not even considered. I have the luxury to consider it > the other's loss when they use these browsers and things don't come out > right. Not everyone is as lucky. > > > > Generally, I agree, browsers are heading back to the stone age, > especially with Flash getting thrown out all over the place. HTML5 isn't > properly implemented in most browsers and the pieces that are included > are working differently. The problem is that HTML always only specified > the markup, but not the display or functionality. It suggests an option, > but really leaves a lot to interpretation. > > > > > > > > Just my 2 ct. > > > > > > David > > > > > > -- Sent from my desktop PC -- > > _______________________________________________ > > New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List > > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > > > http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation > _______________________________________________ > New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk > > http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation _______________________________________________ New York PHP User Group Community Talk Mailing List http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/talk http://www.nyphp.org/show-participation
