Chip, I must respectfully disagree with the idea that there are no good
choices with window-eyes. Unless of course I hve misread your comment, see
my explanation below. I could be way off base, but here are my thoughts. 
Dragon works wonderfully and the added functionality with knowbrainer 2013,
www.knowbrainer.com, allows you to write pretty powerful scripts using a
vb-based language that has a lot of template commands built into it.
Speechstart by pcbyvoice, www.pcbyvoice.com also interacts with wsr and
dragon to let you control the microphone by voice and has some other visual
elements that those with low vision would be able to use to highlight
certain elements on the screen. 

You are correct about the jaws scripts, and, if I recall, isn't their
scripting language proprietary? 

Honestly, I haven't used your wsr script just because I use dragon and not
the windows engine. The one thing that the windows speech recognition does
better than dragon is recognize and play nicely with window-eyes and a
braille display in Microsoft word and office-based applications. 
Please note, I am not writing about knowbrainer and speechstart to solicit
the products, but merely pointing out that their added functionality has
made it easier for me to use Dragon with Window-eyes in general. Dragon is
actually a pretty screen reader friendly program, the hotkeys dialogue in
dragon 13 is dodgy though, requiring editing of an ini file to get it to
work right with a screen reader, all of the screen readers crash when you
try to put in hotkeys, I tried all three main ones. 

Anyway, just my two cents on the issues. 

Dave 

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Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 9:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Dictation Programs, WE, and Operating Systems

Sorry, there are no good choices with Window-Eyes.  Just so you know, I
believe the version of Dragon you would need, and the extra macros you would
need, if you owned jaws, would run near an extra thousand dollars (I
believe), so while there's a choice, I think it's got a hefty price tag.

That's why I wrote a demo macro for the built-in (free!) Windows speech
recognition called WSR.  I had always hoped someone who had the time would
use it to create a full macro suite (free or commercial) to use with the
free WSR, because I spent time training it and using it for a while, and it
recognized about as good as Dragon (but of course it has almost no support
and no documentation, it's not a separate commercial product).

I think the best route is to become a scripter and use that demo macro of
mine to get started and write your own speech macro system.

I think however there is some question as to whether Windows 10 will
continue to support this built-in speech recognition with its macro
interface, because they are adding a second free speech recognition which
does not have a macro interface.  Not nearly so powerful by the reports I've
seen.

Chip


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Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 8:13 PM
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Subject: Dictation Programs, WE, and Operating Systems

Which operating system (Win 7 or 8) and dictation program (Naturally
Speaking, for example) work best?

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