Hi Guys: I am using Brighthouse as my IP provider and been on lists for many, many years and never gotten this message. I have my junk, spam, set to pass through to me and I just delete it. I have never seen any of the Talk messages flagged as spam but have seen many other spam messages flagged as such in my Outlook InBox so, again, they are not getting flagged as spam or there would be a message to that effect when arrowing up and down in the list of jmessages in my InBox. Most that are flagged are from overseas or folks who want to give me a million or even from the FBI wanting me to reply to something and I just hit the delete key if a message that is flagged as spam. I have never seen a good message, like from Talk or the Blind Finance list or Blind Programming or Blind Webbers or just about any other list I have been on, a few more I am still on, flagged as spam. I should think that if they were being flagged as spam I would be notified by Brighthouse and at least some of the messages would have come through to my InBox flagged as spam but nothing. As mentioned this has never happened on any other list I am on so that also indicates this is local to AI2 and their Mailman based software or server. One thing, as I think Mike mentioned, it could be a hack, someone out there doesn't like WindowEyes and has hacked them with that religious message once before. Also, since you guys got my posting my e-mail messages still are coming through to the list it seems - I will see if this goes through, which indicates it is possibly not a Brighthouse problem and, perhaps, not even a true problem but a hacker or something but I am leaning twoard something to do with the AI2 server and, or, their Mailman setup or software. Chip went to another e-mail host and seems to have gotten around this problem. But, since it never has happened in perhaps 15 years on other lists I am still inclined to think it a problem at the AI2 end or I would have encountered this problem at least once over the past 15 years having been on several other lists and having Brighthouse as my provider for the past 15 years. Also, going to my Brighthoust e-mail account I have no spam in it, again, I allow all spam through and handle it manually so would not expect any message from them. This message is targetted only to the Talk List and no other lists so either there is a problem with AI2 and their Mail Management software or someone is targetting AI2 and spamming, sending us bogus messages. Perhaps Chips new e-mail provider is managing to trap these messages and filter them - don't know, but I am not sure there is anything I can do to find out exactly what is going on. If this message comes through it might be a hack attack on AI2 again. If my messages stop going through it is likely a AI2 side problem. There is also the fact that messages often are delayed, was allot worse a few months ago, when sent later in the day to the AI2 list which indicates perhaps the messages are being scrubbed either manually or by a piece of software and that could be related to the AI2 software flagging all messages, or at least many of them, as spam on their end. For now I think I will just let it hang out there and see what develops since I am too busy to try and dig into this much deeper. If my messages stop coming through I guess it is what it is and I might one day contact Brighthouse but I am pretty sure they are not flagging any messages from the Talk list as spam or they would be flagged as spam as are so many others from truly unwanted sendors. No, these messages are being flagged or recorded as spam someplace else and the only other server that might handle this is on the other end of things and in the case of aI2 the Mailman or other software being used by their hosting service. But since Chip has managed to get around this by going to Gmail I am guessing the offending server likes Gmail or just doesn't flag anything sent to or from that provider but, again unless, until someone diggs into it using some heavier tools I cant make a better guess. See you all later if I am still around. Rick USA
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Rogers [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:20 PM To: Rick Thomas <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Cc: 'Chip Orange' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]>; 'Lynn White' <[email protected]> Subject: Re: WE says talk has too many bounces I got the same notice last week and had to hit reply, supposedly. I did and still get the messages. Hope it wasn't some kind of hack. ******************************** www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:41:28 -0400 Rick Thomas via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi: responding to a post. Don't know what will work but we says I > have too many bounces and my e-mail is now going to be disabled. > If anyone gets this what is going on here? > What a piece of garbag... > Rick USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Chip Orange via Talk > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 7:20 PM > To: 'Lynn White' <[email protected]> > Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Window-Eyes 9.2 still crashing With Windows Explorer > > Hi Lynn, > > I thought I had send those instructions to the list, but I can't find a > copy, so here they are: > > * Open a Windows explorer window. > * tab to the "organize" button. > * press spacebar, which should bring up a context menu. > * arrow down to the "layout" submenu and open it up with the right arrow. > * arrow down until you find the "preview pane" and make sure it is not > checked; if it is checked, press <enter> on it to remove the checkmark; > otherwise press escape. > > Hth, > > Chip > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lynn White [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:10 PM > To: Chip Orange; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 still crashing With Windows Explorer > > Good question. Where is the preview pane? Thanks. > > On 7/30/2015 3:55 PM, Chip Orange via Talk wrote: > > Hi Bud, > > > > I'm just wondering, did this help your crashing problem? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chip > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] > > On Behalf Of Bud Schwab via Talk > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:12 PM > > To: Chip Orange; Window-Eyes Discussion List > > Subject: RE: Window-Eyes 9.2 still crashing With Windows Explorer > > > > Chip, where do I find where to disable preview mode? Like several > > others I find my crashes have no pattern to be specific about > > anything. It seems to do it the worst with IE , but it can also do it > > right in the middle of reading an email. I'll keep watching the list > > and also will post anything I discover about it all. > > > > BudAt 08:30 AM 7/29/2015, you wrote: > >> You could check the preview mode and make sure it is disabled; it > >> causes problems when moving the selection over certain types of > >> files where the previewer can't deal with those types, or their data > >> isn't what the file extension indicates it should be. We just had > >> such an incident a few minutes ago with a sighted user where I work > >> (no screen involved at all), and she needed to turn off the preview > >> pane to solve it. > >> > >> Chip > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Chip Orange > >> Florida Public Service Commission > >> Computer Systems Analyst > >> 850-413-6314 > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Talk > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > >> On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:26 AM > >> To: Lynn White; Window-Eyes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: Window-Eyes 9.2 still crashing With Windows Explorer > >> > >> ok, so it's not just me! Thank you! I don't suppose that actually > >> helps, but yes, this is definitely happening to me too. I'm running > >> Windows 7 64-bit, if that helps. The frustrating part is it seems to > >> happen for no rhyme or reason. I can't find a pattern for it so I can > >> reliably tell people when the problem happens. It seems very random, > >> which makes the problem that much harder to fix. If I do find a pattern > >> for when it happens i'll gladly post a more definiative bug report with > >> examples of when it happens, etc. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 7/28/2015 11:53 PM, Lynn White via Talk wrote: > >>> I have actually had two crashes in the last two days whenever windows > >>> explorer freezes and have had to reboot. I wish I could figure out > >>> why Explorer wants to crash after much intensive use of the machine. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >>> > >>> For membership options, visit > >>> > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40v > > erizon.net. > >>> For subscription options, visit > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>> List archives can be found at > >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of > >> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >> > >> For membership options, visit > >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/corange%40psc > > .state.fl.us. > >> For subscription options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> List archives can be found at > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of > >> the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >> > >> For membership options, visit > >> > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/budschwab%40v > > erizon.net. > >> For subscription options, visit > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >> List archives can be found at > >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > Bud Schwab > > W 6 Z Y P > > El Segundo, California > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author > > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/chip.orange%40 > > gmail.com. > > For subscription options, visit > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lynnwhite360%4 > 0radioforlife.info. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/ofbgmail%40mi. > rr.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/harpman9%40gma il.com. > For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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