Hello Vaughan,

Great observations!

" Where is the reference to Window-Eyes being regarded as the top screen
reader?"
No reference, just my personal observations over the past decade as a user,
as a researcher on access technology, and as a reseller of access
technology.

"There seems to be a lack of analysis of the consequences of Window-eyes
being free"
Yeah, you got that right!  You can ask Microsoft as well how it plans to
make money giving Windows 10 and Office 2016 away for free.  I have no clue.
My guess is that Microsoft is funding AI Squared somehow so development can
continue.  It's likely cheaper for Microsoft to subcontract accessibility
development.

"red hot news"
I missed that announcement.  The comments about it are way out-of-line!
Let's wait and see what AI Squared says.

Thanks, Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: Vaughan Dodd [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 3:54 PM
To: 'Peter Duran'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Red Hot news: Perhaps Windows 10 with Window-Eyes

Hi Peter.

A voice of reason amidst the noisy chaos, but there are a couple of things
about which I disagree or am otherwise unclear.

Where is the reference to Window-Eyes being regarded as the top screen
reader?  Certainly, the most recent WebAim web access survey reports an
increase in Window-"
eyes usage, so maybe I've just missed something about other aspects of its
success.

Secondly: There seems to be a lack of analysis of the consequences of
Window-eyes being free for users of Office.  I have always believed that
apart from constructively ensuring that screen reader access is more
available to more blind people, it sends a signal about lack of investment
as it no longer generates its own revenue.  Version 9.2 sent a signal to me
that Window-Eyes will remain with us for a while yet, and there are other
indicators of on-going development, but how are such things paid for?  I
used to be sympathetic to the notion of Window-eyes being integrated into
Windows, in the same way tha tVoiceOver is part of Apple products.  Whilst
this might happen, Microsoft's track record of buying out software companies
and thei  r products has been less than positive with respect to
accessaibility and new access features.  There is a lot to be said for the
small, innovative specialist companies, but the work is challenging and the
costs of development, marketing and distribution are high.  

I share the view that the "Red Hot News" was a gaff, but mistakes get made
and those who make them are charged with correcting them.  We will get
positive, easy to read news soon - of that I am certain.


Vaughan.



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Peter Duran via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, 21 October 2015 9:31 p.m.
To: Talk 
Subject: Red Hot news: Perhaps Windows 10 with Window-Eyes

There are a lot of silly e-mails on this topic from no more versions of
Window-Eyes to AI Squared is sending out spam.  Most of you don't think
things through before you post dumb e-mails.  Recall that Window-Eyes has
won the screen reader wars!  It is free to any person with a computer
running Microsoft Office; that's most every computer around the world.  The
only situation that could be better is if Window-Eyes were a part of Windows
10.  (Don't let this surmise of mine become another unfounded rumor.)

I would guess that version 9.3 of Window-Eyes will make its appearance in a
couple of weeks, and then the stupid claims about its demise will cease.

BTW: AI Squared and Face book are having a webinar this Thursday afternoon
on how you can use Window-Eyes to access Facebook features.  It would seem
from that Window-Eyes is not going away but instead consolidating its
dominant position.

Peter Duran

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