Hi, First I can confirm that using the key describer with print screen does infact speak the message print screen. Second I can confirm that some keyboard don't send the correct code for this key. If this is happening of course you would not expect window-eyes to intercept and read this key. Third the input help command for nvda is the same command as the key describer. Insert 1. Finally I am going to recommend that the alt+printScreen keyboard command be added to the keyboard maniger of virtual view so the user can change it. I am also going to recommend that this dialog be added to the app menu as well. Hth
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:31 AM To: Aaron Smith <asm...@aisquared.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Introducing Virtual View 5.0 Aaron, and the rest. I have been using numerous keyboards up through the years, and as you Aaron suggests, the PrintScreen usually is just right of F12, and on a standard keyboard, that would make it the farmost left of the 3 keys above the 6-pack. Yet, here is another issue. On the laptop I have at the moment, a Dell, the 6-pack is located in the far upper right corner of the keyboard. That is, the lower-left key, the Del-key of the 6-pack, is immediately to the right of F12. There is no 3 keys above this 6-pack. Neither any other place on the keyboard. Some suggested it could be where the App-key used to be, but nope, there we only have the Right-Control key. So my guess is that it is located under one of the other keys, likely in a combo with the FN-key. Now moving on with my issue, I normally don't use the laptop's keyboard much. Tend to use a wireless keyboard. It is more of a standard design.And on this one, sure I have the 3 keys next to the F12. I now have had it confirmed that the left of the three, indeed is the PrintScreen-key. Thing is, that when I open the Keyboard-describer - like you Aaron suggested - I can press this key a million times, and it is not announced. Question 1 then, is PrintScreen supposed to be spoken under the keyboard describer, and can others confirm that it so happen? I further cannot get this key to do anything, in connection with the Virtual View app, even if I press the Alt-PrintScreen inside a PDF file. Question 2, what could be the case with the PrintScreen? Are all PrintScreen-keys sending the same keycode, or are we once again into some keyboards not producing the right key-command, like with some numeric keypads on the market? I am running a standard American version of Win7 Pro. The only thing noticeable about the PrintScreen on my wireless keyboard, is that it reads "PrintScreen" and underneath "Sys RQ". Don't know if that is the standard label on a keyboard, as I do not have any reference keyboard at hand. Further, running under WE8.4. Although slightly off-topic, does anyone happen to know how to open the keyboard-describer in NVDA? I then could check and see if NVDA recognizes my PrintScreen key. Just trying to track down why it won't have any impact on my Virtual View. Unless something is totally wrong on my system, maybe others are in the risk of experiencing similar issues, and hence it would be useful for us to know. Of course, one small tip for a solution that could be more taylored to any keyboard on the market, is if you Aaron could have provided a hotkey in the app, which simulated the Alt-PrintScreen. I know, this is not the real good solution, but since I here see my laptop having the embedded PrintScreen somehow hid, and likely in with an odd key-combo, and my Wireless keyboard's PrintScreen does not produce the wanted result - it might be worth considering. My next guess is, that the Alt-PrintScreen may happen to be a frequently used combo, for many of the users. If not all keyboards on the market would happen to have a PrintScreen - and yet more have it so wrongly dug into some odd location - it only justifies the normal rule, and would strongly back the idea of an app-specific "simulation" hotkey. On 11/5/2015 4:42 PM, Aaron Smith via Talk wrote: > It can differ from keyboard to keyboard, but it's usually to the right of F12. You can always enable the key describer (Insert-1), then start pressing keys until you locate it. > > Thanks, > > Aaron > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
