Hi Moe,

I'm forwarding you the message I sent to the list yesterday, and these
instructions work for me using Window-Eyes 9.2, on Windows 10 64-bit, and
using the current version of Itunes.

All the best,

Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: November 19, 2015 11:20 AM
To: 'David Crowell' <[email protected]>
Cc: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: iTunes

Hi Dave,

As promised, I'm writing to provide some information which should help you
navigate the Music tab in Itunes, and I'm copying this to the Window-Eyes
talk list as well.

I hope this helps,

Rod

Here are some guidelines for navigating the Itunes Music tab, arrived at by
pressing Control-1.
Press Control-F which brings you to the search box at the top of the Itunes
window.
Press F6 to bring focus to your music collection.
If you then press Shift-tab, a button is focused, having one of the
following names:
Songs, Albums, Artists, Composers, or Genres
The button label indicates how your music collection is currently displayed.

The important thing to remember is that pressing Tab always allows you to
navigate among the controls in the Itunes window; in some circumstances, F6
can also allow you to jump quickly from one area to another, allowing you to
avoid pressing Tab repeatedly.
Also, as you navigate, it is important to listen both to the type of control
focused as well as any additional information provided, such as the name of
the button; all of this information allows you to determine your current
options.

You change the way your music collection is displayed by focusing the button
mentioned above, pressing spacebar or Enter, and then pressing Tab once to
focus the list of sort options.
Use the up and down arrow keys to select the desired sort option, and then
press Enter to activate it.
At this point, the menu will close, and focus will return to the button
which had been previously focused.
You can then press tab to focus the various controls offered by the new
display of your music collection.

I have found that sorting by Artist or Genre are the most helpful; the
reason for this is that they offer the best view of your music collection.
For example, if you sort by Artist, and press Tab in order to focus the
treeview, this will display  all the artists in your music collection; using
the up and down arrow keys, you can move through the list of artists; once
you choose an artist, if you then press F6 (or press tab repeatedly), you
will then arrive at a listview containing all the tracks by that artist,
and, by default, the tracks are sorted by the album they belong to, and, of
course, the tracks are sorted by their order within the album; you will hear
all of this information as you move through the list using the up and down
arrow keys.

Sorting by Genre is equally helpful; in this case, the treeview will contain
the music genres to which the tracks in your collection belong, and the
listview contains all the tracks in that genre, sorted by artist, then by
album, and, lastly, by track order within the album.

An additional point to note is that when the sort button is pressed and the
pop-up menu appears, and you press Tab once in order to focus the list of
sort options, if you continue to press tab, you can navigate through
additional controls, allowing you to further sort the items in the treeview
and listview, depending on the primary sort option you have chosen; note,
however, that, after adjusting these additional controls, you can only close
the menu by returning to the sort listbox and pressing Enter; pressing
Escape allows you to close the menu cancelling any changes you have made.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Crowell [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: November 19, 2015 1:05 AM
To: 'Rod Hutton' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: iTunes

Hi Rod, 
Thank you so much, I will look forward to receiving them from you.  Take
your time and get them to me when it is feasible for you.  Thanks, 

        
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:44 PM
To: 'David Crowell'
Subject: RE: iTunes

Hi Dave,

I'm writing up detailed instructions for you, and yet I got busy today.
I will get them done over the next day or so. smile

Thanks,

Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: David Crowell [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: November 18, 2015 4:52 PM
To: 'Rod Hutton' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: iTunes

Hi Rod, 
I think I may have explained things a little wrong in my message to the talk
list.  
The main problem I am having with iTunes is seeing the list of music I have
saved in iTunes.  
Before I could choose music and then tab to the list of music and then arrow
up and down through the list and press enter on the music I wanted.  For
example if I choose a CD I have ripped or purchased from itunes then I would
press enter and a list of the tracks would come up and I could arrow through
what I wanted to play.  
But since the version 12 of iTunes and WE9.2 I can no longer do this.  When
I get to the list of music all I hear is list view.  
 
I have not ripped any more CD's because I want to figure out how to read the
list of CD's first.

Thanks so much for being willing to give me a hand and I promise not to
become a pest.

        
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:24 PM
To: 'David Crowell'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: iTunes

Hi Dave,

I'm using the current version of iTunes 12.3.1.23 64-bit on Windows 10.
I've gotten very comfortable with it over the past month or so and I haven't
found anything I can't do with it.
I haven't used it to rip CDs, but I'm fairly sure it can be done using the
current version of Window-Eyes.
I thought about doing a podcast to introduce people to its functions and
such, but I decided against it for now, preferring to see what issues people
are having with it, and then just trying to help on a one on one basis.
Therefore, if you want to write to me off-list or simply ask your question
on the list, I'll certainly try and help.

All the best,

Rod



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of David Crowell via Talk
Sent: November 18, 2015 12:28 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]>
Subject: iTunes

Hi I am an apple product user for my mobil phone and I also use iTunes on my
computer for ripping CD's so I can have them on my phone.  

Ever since I went to windows 8.1 and Window Eyes 9.2  It is impossible for
me to use iTunes on my computer.  

I have iTunes 12.8 or the latest version of iTunes.  

If someone can direct me to an app I may need to get and how to find it or
give me some directions on how to use iTunes with window eyes, or if I need
to go back to an older version of iTunes  it would be greatly appreciated.  

Thank you in Advance. 

 

 
Dave

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