There will always be people trying to cheat the system. If Microsoft has been giving 10 away for a year, then they probably do not consider it too important of a revenue stream. I expect that older versions of Office don't work as well on the newer OS, and most Office users these days are encouraged to pay on a recurring basis for their license of other Microsoft products.
I am sure Microsoft considered several other possibilities before being generous enough to extend the upgrade deadline for AT users, and decided either the support costs or the loyalty costs were greater than the lost revenue of making it easy to extend the deadline. Best wishes, Jonathan Cohn > On Jul 31, 2016, at 2:48 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi. Not only that, but did you guys hear about the other thing ms screwed up > on? On it's website, Microsoft has a special page devoted to people with > disabilities, and it allows them to click on a link that people could go to > with assistive tech, and get the latest copy of Windows 10. Well, some > well-known sighted blogs have picked up on this and are telling people to go > to that site and grab a copy of Windows 10, essentially circumventing > microsoft's decision of ending the date of getting a free upgrade by July > 29th. If Microsoft were going to do this, what they *should* have done is > had a form, which a person wishing to get a copy of windows 10 had to sign, > print out and somehow authenticate themselves to make sure that people were > doing this in the right way. I suspect that Microsoft probably doesn't > really care, because it's their goal to get Windows 10 on as many machines as > is humanly possible. I absolutely love Windows 10, it's a supurb operating > system but Mi crosoft really did kind of drop the ball on both edge accessibility, and this thing of giving people with assistive tech a bit of a longer time to get it for free. > > > > > On 7/31/2016 1:55 AM, Reeva Webb via Talk wrote: >> Expecting blindness orgs to do something worth a damn. Hahahahahaha >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, July 31, 2016, Vaughan Dodd via Talk <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Russ: thank you for advertising this. >>> >>> >>> I have listened to the podcast, and whilst not wishing to criticise Main >>> menu, I do have to say that it seems that the good folks of ACB Radio have >>> sold the Microsoft line. >>> >>> >>> Of particular concern is that Microsoft's blocking of screen reader access >>> with the Edge browser due to security based decisions is unforgiveable. I >>> feel for the blatant apologies given at last year's ACB Convention; >>> Microsoft's progress in more than 12 months does not seem to reflect a true >>> commitment. Screen readers an web browsers as a combfination are not new. >>> This was all preventable, and Microsoft need to stop making excuses for its >>> sloppy attitude. Whilst the Microsoft representatives did say that work is >>> happening with adaptive technology suppliers, the fact is that MS screwed >>> up and the strategy appears to be to lock out screen readers which even >>> today, perform better than the Narrator demos we've so far heard. >>> >>> >>> The very brief demonstrations did not tackle complex web based >>> interactions such as banking sites, cluttered newspaper feeds and travel >>> booking services. >>> >>> >>> >>> Narrator has not progressed the question of braille. >>> >>> >>> >>> Narrator has not truly advanced magnifier. >>> >>> We need to remain cynical about Microsoft's attempts at improving Windows >>> accessibility. For me - Microsoft needs to do better with respect to >>> supporting VFO screen reader products, be these Window-Eyes or JAWS. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is a very good thing that organisations such as ACB operate an >>> advisory relationship with Microsoft, (as mentioned in the podcast), it >>> needs to be brave and bold enough to provide public criticism when such >>> critique is required. If the NFB can do so with Apple, whose VoiceOver is >>> a better product than Narrator, ACB can certainly hold Microsoft to account. >>> >>> >>> >>> The Main menu programme is independent of the opinions of Acb Radio and >>> the ACB, and long may that independence remain. Sometimes - discussions >>> like this latest one need to be able to mix public relations and awareness >>> of developments with strident editorial comment. Such background and >>> assimilation of divergent opinion could easily be a second podcast, and I >>> hope that such a follow-up happens soon. >>> >>> >>> >>> Vaughan. >>> >>> >>> On 7/31/2016 1:31 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote: >>> >>>> This week on Main Menu we bring you the latest information from the folks >>>> at Microsoft Corporation all about the new Windows 10 anniversary update >>>> coming next week to a computer near you. Narrator, the screen reader >>>> built-in to Windows 10 is the main focus of our discussion this week and we >>>> brought a number of technology experts direct from Microsoft and elsewhere >>>> to talk all about it. The following Microsoft engineers joined us on the >>>> show from the Windows 10 Narrator accessibility team: Brett Humphrey, Kelly >>>> Ford and Dan Hubbell. In addition, Joe Steinkamp joined us from the Blind >>>> Bargains site as a technology expert on Windows 10. Microsoft has been hard >>>> at work on significantly enhancing Narrator with new voices, performance >>>> improvements, a new scan mode, new verbosity settings and so much more. We >>>> ask Microsoft questions about the upgrade experience for Windows users and >>>> we even dive into the positioning of Narrator as a viable commercial screen >>>> reader. This is really >>>> >>> ju >>> >>>> st the start of what is a jam packed show. In fact, we have a slight >>>> change for this week. We had so much content that was timely we will be >>>> airing the content of the show on ACB Radio starting at 9:00 PM Eastern. If >>>> you get the podcast version of the show there will be an additional 15 >>>> minutes of audio demonstrations of Narrator features included. Here are >>>> some important links you should keep in mind for Windows 10: What is coming >>>> up in Win10 Anniversary Update August 2 Ready to upgrade? AT user? Please >>>> use this link for free upgrade to Windows 10 Narrator user guides and >>>> documentation (this link will be live on August 2nd) >>>> >>>> http://mainmenu.acbradio.org/podcast/2016-07-29.mp3 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>>> >>>> For membership options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/vdodd001%40vodafone.co.nz >>>> . >>>> For subscription options, visit >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> List archives can be found at >>>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >>> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >>> >>> For membership options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jadedangelpromises%40gmail.com >>> . >>> For subscription options, visit >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> List archives can be found at >>> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jon.c.cohn%40gmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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