Hi Vaughn.  They started merging in June, and we're now in the month of
august, so it will be 4 months.

-----Original Message-----
From: Vaughan Dodd [mailto:vaughan.dodd...@msd.govt.nz] 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 6:52 PM
To: 'Sky Mundell'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update:
TheResults Will Surprise You!

Sky, Pam et al: ultimately - what will VFO Group do?

The screen reader industry is changing.  The pattern is that individuals do
not wish to buy screen readers anymore.  There are good reasons for that,
and as none of the screen readers are perfect, because in part Microsoft's
support of third party screen readers has now become suspect, Window-eyes
might survive with the free with Office initiative, but it won't develop if
it is free.  Jaws will struggle, because it is over-priced, and demand for
it will fall because of free Window-eyes and free NVDA.

Microsoft has had years to get NVDA to the state where VoiceOver is now.  It
simply hasn't, and small developers like GW Micro have done an outstanding
job, because Microsoft wouldn't.

All we can do (at least those of us who are on the outside), is fill lots of
band with with our speculation.  We can rate screen readers against each
other as much as we like, but what really matters  is where will we be in
six months.

I would like to hope that Bob Blake will give us some decent clues soon, as
the VFO Group must be strategising for the survival of screen reader based
technology.


Vaughan.




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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Monday, 15 August 2016 1:42 p.m.
To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Amanda Lee'
Subject: RE: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update:
TheResults Will Surprise You!

Hi Pan. Luckally for me, the organisations are excepting of Window-Eyes in
Canada. In fact, I spoke to a guy about the free office inishitive, and he
told me he has had a huge moral problem with cost and licenceing model of
JAWS in that organisation. Now they use Window-Eyes as one of a range of
options as they have Zoomtext.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 6:39 PM
To: Amanda Lee; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update:
TheResults Will Surprise You!

The IRS refused to let my husband use window eyes, even though he was more
familiar with it, and he could have done his job better.  Pam.

-----Original Message-----
From: Amanda Lee via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 3:15 PM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update: 
TheResults Will Surprise You!

This is very incorrect.  I've worked for more than one employer both public
and private who allowed me to request the screen reader I wanted.  This
includes three different U.S. Federal Government agencies who I've worked
for or worked under a contractor.  I was able to request Window-Eyes for a
couple of different nonprofits and otherwise.  Generally, all that you need
to do is produce an accurate, written justification for a Screen reader
other than JAWS or otherwise.  Window-Eyes is on the GSA Schedule and is
also on the DOD Cap Program list.

As for NVDA, it will likely never be adopted by a public entity in the U.S.
or private company or nonprofit.  This is because of the nature of its
open-source code which is vulnerable to threats of hacks and such to it's
source code.

As for Narrator, the proof is already there that it is not as robust as a
fully developed Screen Reader.  It likely never will.  It could certainly
improve and I am pleased that Microsoft is once again expressing interest in
improvement as I find it still rather frustrating to setup a computer which
has no Screen Reader installed or to recover from hangs.



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of christopher hallsworth via Talk
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 3:03 PM
To: CJ &AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Subject: Re: Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update: The
Results Will Surprise You!

I know and have used Window-Eyes when I was using a Windows computer, and it
was good. When I do use a Windows computer, it is NVDA all the way. Trouble
is, most institutions who cater for the blind and visually impaired have
Windows computers with either JAWS or Supernova installed, nothing else.
> On 12 Aug 2016, at 22:25, CJ &AA MAY via Talk 
> <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
wrote:
>
> It saddens me that there are so many people, especially here in the 
> UK, who don't know about Window-eyes' existence.
>
> I have used this screenreader right from the start, in fact when it 
> was called Vocal-eyes and used to provide access to DOS - this must be 
> providing some clues to my age!
>
> But I've never regretted my choice.
>
> Alison
>
>
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