but before jaws, jonathan mosen used window eyes. 

Sent from my  window eyes mail app done by me! 

> On 15 Oct 2016, at 9:10 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Vaughn. They defenatly do have a foothold in the market and they can
> control it to their advantage. I bet Erick comes to NZ to promote JAWS to
> agencies, and not to mshen Jonathan Mosen used to work for them.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 6:00 PM
> To: Nick Sarames; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: is this definite? was RE: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes
> 
> Their place in the market is virtually secure: they have an almost 
> international monopoly on screen reader software.
> 
> 
> Vaughan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/15/2016 1:32 PM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
>> It's not enough to complain, you have to find a way to show them that
>> this would hurt their place in the market.
>> 
>>> On 10/14/2016 8:30 PM, Kenneth Son via Talk wrote:
>>> Hello list.
>>> 
>>> Start a petition and send it to this company stating you do not want to
>>> see Window Eyes phased out.
>>> 
>>> Kenneth Son.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/14/2016 18:51, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
>>>> No official word yet.  If you want to make sure Window-eyes stays
>>>> around, please write to the VFO folks and let them know that you
>>>> expect the same type of customer service and great products as you did
>>>> when ai squared was around. This will let them know you care about the
>>>> product and that you are a loyal user.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/14/2016 4:17 PM, darren harris via Talk wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this actual policy or are people just panicking? Is wineyes going
>>>>> to be
>>>>> fazed out?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Talk
>>>>> 
> [mailto:talk-bounces+darren_g_harris=btinternet....@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins via Talk
>>>>> Sent: 14 October 2016 20:28
>>>>> To: bj colt via Talk
>>>>> Subject: The Phasing Out of Window-Eyes
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello John,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been drafting a letter to VFO because, as you know, there is
>>>>> speculation that Window-Eyes is going to be phased out.  If it is, I am
>>>>> not switching to Jaws, because I won't be able to afford it, amongst
>>>>> other reasons.  However, in my letter, I have pointed out that if
>>>>> Window-Eyes goes, it provides a significant problem for blind people
>>>>> wanting to get into work, as not everyone has an access to work fund.
>>>>> Moreover, one of the few ways we can work, especially for younger
>>>>> people, is volunteering, and there, we may be in a crisis, as IT
>>>>> technicians are paranoid about NVDA, since it is open source, and they
>>>>> think it could contain a virus or compromise security in another way.
>>>>> We would be in limbo, as they won't want NVDA, and they won't pay for
>>>>> Jaws, as Access to Work won't pay for equipment for unpaid work, so you
>>>>> would have to buy a license for every computer you use out of your own
>>>>> pocket.  What do you think?  Also, I have heard that they are
> developing
>>>>> both Magic and ZoomText.  How come they are doing that, but phasing out
>>>>> Window-Eyes?  To me, this is a case of double standards.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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