Many of the listers may never remember the "old days" in the assistive world. But for those of us who does, I for one can still remember the days when no Braille display had cursor routing capabilities. I can assure you it is not totally necessary, though quite handy, to have this functionality.
As for the user who asked how to fetch the cursor, in the middle of a 15 page document, I am not totally sure I get the point in the query. And, it's been a while since I had a Braille display attached to my WinEyes machine, so forebare please with me, should my memory fail. Usually, when moving the Braille display, you could set it to "pull" the cursor along. At least, that used to be the case in other screen readers. Meaning, if you move the Braille display to next line, the cursor on the screen also would move down one line in the document. Now, should you find something to correct on that line, you would just have to use the arrows on the computer keyboard to direct the cursor to the correct position. Alternatively, instead of moving the Braille Display line by line, you would set it to follow the cursor, and then do all your moving directly with the computer arrows. That way, you definitely would have the cursor handy - at the same line as the display - at any given time. Sure, you would have to move your hand up on the main keyboard for the next line, but that simply is a matter of habit. With a small display of something like 20-30 cells, you might even be better off in doing the reading altogether with one hand, leaving the other on the arrows of your main keyboard, thereby eliminating all issues of cursor redirection. As for how to operate the mouse, by using the braille display - like when you can click one of the cursor routing keys and have it act as a mouse-click - I am not sure how they solve this on modern displays without the cursor-routing keys. My experience with this kind of displays run way back in the DOS days, when a mouse still had four legs, peeped, and ran into the nearest hole in the wall when it heard any mention of a cat. Hence, the issue of operating such a pet on the computer screen for a blind person, would still be several years ahead in time. Smiles. Well, have we all been a bit nostalgic through the years? :D David On 4/24/2017 11:34 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Perhaps a little app could be written to accomplish this. > A brief glance at the developer's manual leads me to believe it shouldn't be > too difficult. > > All the best, > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Chris G via Talk > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 10:06 AM > To: Steve Nutt via Talk <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: braille displays and we > > I agree, > I wonder what happens if you are panning through a large document and > want to edit a word 5 pages into your document, how does one move the > editing cursor to the place on the braille display? > > > > Chris Grabowski > Mystic Access > Where the magic is in learning. > http://www.MysticAccess.com > > Check out our eclectic and comprehensive assistive technology podcasts at: > http://www.MysticAccessPodcast.com > > Join our free announce-only mailing list to receive product news, > podcast updates and exclusive coupon codes. Please send a blank email to: > > [email protected] > > Contact: > > Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) > > Twitter: MysticAccess > Facebook: mysticaccessempower > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > From: Steve Nutt via Talk > Sent: Monday, Apr 24, 2017 6:03 AM EST > To: 'Josh Kennedy'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > Subject: braille displays and we > > Hardly useful if you can't move the cursor with the display. > > I think I'll give the Orbit a miss. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy via Talk > Sent: 08 April 2017 19:23 > To: [email protected]; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: braille displays and we > > yes that is correct, there are no cursor routing buttons at all. but that is > ok I can do without cursor routing buttons. > when you are editing a word, the screen reader tells the orbit20 > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > On April 8, 2017 14:17:22 "Steve Jacobson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Joshua, > > I have not seen the latest prototypes of the Orbit Reader, but I > assume there are still no cursor routing keys, is that correct? You > said you can't use it with Window-Eyes, but have you used it with > other screen readers? If so, what does it do when you have a cursor > that moves when you are editing a word? In other words, how well does > it show that a cursor moved but no characters changed? > > Best regards, > > Steve Jacobson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Joshua Kennedy via Talk > Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 11:33 AM > To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> > Subject: braille displays and we > > also I am testing still the orbit reader20 prototype and it does not > work with window eyes even in rb18 emulation mode or refreshabraille18 > emulation mode. the braille on the orbit20 is better than any other > braille display I have ever seen in my whole life. It feels like the > braille you see on elevator doors, hotel room doors, or ATM machine > signage quality firm durable braille. and it is liquid and dust > resistant also. I accidentally dropped the orbit reader 20 prototype > once and nothing happened, it fell upside down and i was able to pick > it up and it just keeps working, not a scratch on it at all and no > pins fell out at all. and its basic internal text or braille editor > does not care what braille code you write in. you can write any kind > of braille you wish whether its contracted braille ueb braille music > or nemeth math braille. just like a perkins brailler or slate and > stylus, you can write any braille code you wish, even make up your own > or write grade3 shorthand if you want. > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve.ja > cobson > %40visi.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro > om.co.uk. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jedikent%40mysticaccess.email. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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