Hi Dave! You are welcome! Let me know if you have any questions at all about the tutorial or anything else. DavidMoore Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Dave Basden via Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:20 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Dave Basden Subject: RE: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate Hi Daivd, Thanks for the tutorial. I didn't catch your later message with the tutorial included until after I wrote my begging request. I'm looking forward to using the tutorial. Dave At 05:57 PM 10/10/2017, you wrote: >Hi Dave! >Here is my tutorial on using Chrome pasted right into this email. >You can read it right in the message, or copy and paste it into a document. >Here is the tutorial! >Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser >By David Moore >This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome. >I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because >they both work the same in Chrome. >Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build. >I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome. >There should be a shortcut on your desktop. > >Section One: >Launching Chrome: >One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape >and type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you >hear JAWS say Chrome. >However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a >shortcut icon on your desktop. >So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press >enter to open Chrome. >The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find >the Google Chrome icon on your desktop. >The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to >maximise the window. Chrome often opens with the window not >maximise, and you will get undesirable results. > >Section Two: >Bringing up a web site. >Press CTRL+L or Alt+D >and type the following: >www.freedomscientific.com >The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly. >All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for >combo box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome. > >Section Three: >The Virticle Chrome menu: >I will press the Alt key. >The Chrome menu is open. >This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up >and down arrow through. >I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu. >New Tab, CTRL+T. >You can press that command right from the web site you are on. >New Window, CTRL+N >You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here. >New incognito Window. >History sub menu. >I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu! >History, CTRL+H >So, there is a key command for reading your history. >You can read a few sites you were on right here. >I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu. >Downloads, CTRL+J >There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded >with Chrome. >Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu. >I will press right arrow, to open this. >I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D >That command will bookmark the page you are reading. >Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B >That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for >all to see. I do not want that. >Here is the important one. >manage bookmarks >The command is, CTRL+Shift+O >In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the >bookmarks you have imported from different browsers, and very >importantly, you can download, to your computer, an HTML file of all >of your bookmarks in Chrome. >On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it >downloads, and a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all >bookmarks you have saved in Chrome. This is an awesome way to >download all of your bookmarks right to your computer, so you can back them up. >That is all for manage bookmarks. >Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings. >press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings >from IE, and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in >their corresponding folders. >Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down. >Very important! >Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the >choices I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved >bookmarks. If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it >gets me to these choices. >Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, >have key commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub >menu at all. You only need to come here most of the time, to arrow >through your saved bookmarks, and enter on the desired one. >To save a web site as a bookmark, >Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved. >I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu! >I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that >we entered by just pressing alt. >The next few are very self explanatory. >The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu. >I will press right arrow on this. >I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S. >Next, Save to desktop. >This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your >desktop. This is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in >the file menu in IE. >It is hidden under this more tools submenu. >Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key. >Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on. >These are the same as add ons, in IE. >I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we >are back to the virticle Chrome menu. >The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu. >If you press the left arrow on the help sub menu, you can open the >help system, just like in other programs, so that is all I will say about help. >Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open >where the virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in >Brows mode. > >Section Four: >Adjusting Settings and Advanced settings: >Now that this web page is open, I will just down arrow down the page >and we will deal with each setting. >Important: >I have already signed into Chrome. >So now, arrow down until you hear sign into Chrome and press enter. >You just enter your email address and password, I think it has to be >the same email address and password that you used to set up your >Google account. >I am not sure about this. >You do not need to sign into Chrome, if you do, you can sync all of >your activity between all devices that you have Chrome on. That is >the only advantage of signing in. >I will continue with what I hear after you have signed in. >If you do not sign in, press H until you hear Appearance. >Each group of settings is a heading that you can get to by pressing >H. This makes it very easy, because you just press H until you hear >the group of settings you want to work with. >Now, because I have signed in, this is what I hear before getting to >appearance. >The first thing you hear: >Settings. >That is the very top of the web page. >Down arrow, and you hear: >Main Menu Button. >That will just take you back to the virticle menu we were in. >If you down arrow again, you will just hear blank. >Down arrow, again, and you hear: >Settings again, but now, this is a heading. You can get here just by >pressing H at the top of the page. >If you down arrow, you hear: >Search Settings. >This is where you can type in a setting that you want to change. >Down arrow again, and there is the edit field where you type in the >setting you want to work with. >Down arrow again, and you hear another heading saying people. >Down arrow again, and I hear David Clickable. >This is because I have already signed into Chrome. >Down arrow again, and I hear my Gmail email address. >Again, this is because I have already signed into Chrome to sync my >settings and all of that. >Down arrow again, and I hear: >Edit person. >This is where I could change my name. >Down arrow again, and I hear: >Sign Out. >This is because I have already signed in to Chrome. >Down arrow again, and I hear: >Sync. >Down arrow again, and I hear: >On, Sync everything. >This is a combo box, where you can choose what to sinc; I chose >everything in this combo box. >Again, all of this is because I have signed into Chrome already. >Down arrow again, and you hear: >Sync button. >Down arrow again, and you hear: >Manage other people clickable. >Don't worry about the clickables. There is a clickable for many >things, but then there is the button you enter on right after that. > Down arrow again, and you hear: >Manage other people button. >This is what you would press enter on to set up another user. >Down arrow again, and you hear: >Import bookmarks and settings Clickable: >Down arrow again, and you actually hear >Import bookmarks and settings button. >Here, you press enter and import all of your bookmarks and settings >from other Browsers like IE. >This is another way of doing this, because remember, >We had a choice of manage bookmarks in the book marks sub menu in >the virticle menu. >There is more than one place to do things in Chrome. >Now, we have a series of headings, that you can just press H for >heading, to get to. >Now, we have gotten to the appearance heading. Down arrow and you hear: >themes, which I did nothing with. >Next, you can open the Chrome web store. You can get hundreds of >extentions, and more. >Then, you hear Themes button. >Do nothing with this. >Next, you hear: >Show home clickable. >Just skip that. >There are many buttons that say clickable, and then there is a >button that you actually press enter on to work with it. >Just work with the buttons, and skip over these vclickables. >Down arrow, and you have an edit box where you can put in your home >page you want to get to by pressing Alt+Home. >Next, there is the home button toggle. >Press the spacebar to turn this on or off. If it is on, you can have >the home button show at the top of the Chrome Window. >I have it checked. >Now, there are two radio buttons, and I chose the one to enter with >a custom web address. >Search Heading: >We are at another heading, where you can set your search Engine. >There is a combo box below, and I set it to Chrome, because I like >to have my searches from the address bar done with Crome instead of Bing. >Next heading: >Default Browser. >Here, you can choose weather you want Chrome to be your default >browser or not. >Just leave this alone if you do not want Chrome to be your default browser. >Next Important heading: >On Start up. >Here is where you put in your URL that you want to show as soon as >you start Chrome. >There are three radio buttons to pick from, but I chose to open with >a specific page or pages, which is the third radio button. >Under this, you can type in the URL of the web site that you want to >open when you start Chrome. >Under this, there is a link where you can add more pages you want to >show when Chrome starts up. >Now, we are up to the search engin heading. >This is a heading. >There are headings on this settings page. >I chose to use Google search engin in the address bar. This is a combo box. >The next heading, is on start up. >Finally, here is where you set up your home page. >There are three radio buttons here. >I chose the third one, to open a selected page or selected pages. >Next, I was able to enter: >www.Google.Com. >That is my home page that will open each time I start Chrome. >Next important group of settings, the advanced settings. >Now, you have to press enter on the advanced settings button before >more headings of settings will show. >The Advanced settings are collapsed, so you have to press enter to >show more headings of settings. >Now that these advanced settings are open, we get to the next >heading of settings. >There is much more we can customize under the advanced settings. >Privacy and security heading: >Down arrow from here, and you hear: >Use a web service to resolve navigation errors. >You have a clickable, and a toggle. >Press spacebar to toggle this on or off. >Again, ignore the clickables. >Now you have: >Use a prodiction service to enable you in searches. >I left this unchecked. >Next, you have a setting to speed up the loading of web pages: >I checked this with spacebar. >The next three settings I just left alone. >I checked the one that says: >Use a web service to help with spelling. >I leave manage certificates alone. >Next, you have content settings, but this is not a new heading. >We are still working with the same heading. >The only thing of interest here, is the clear history button. >This was available in the virtical menu, so don't worry about this. >Now, we get to the next heading of settings. >Passwords and forms: >Under this heading, just make sure that you check to be able to have >Chrome save passwords. >Languages Heading: >I did nothing with this. >Downloads heading: >This is where you choose where you want your downloads to be saved >on your computer. >Printing heading: >I did nothing with this. >Accessibility heading: >I did nothing with this. >Now, we have the System heading: >Down arrow, and you hear: >Continue running background apps, when Google Chrome is Closed. >I have this unchecked. >Next, >Use hard ware excelloration when Available. >I have this checked. >Next, you hear: >Open proxy settings button. >I left this alone. >Last Heading LOL! >Reset. >Here, you can reset all settings back to their origional. >We are done with Settings. >Now, just press CTRL+F4 to get back to the Freedom Scientific Web site. >This settings web page, opens in another tab. >That is it for settings. >Notice, we made a lot of changes under the advanced settings. You >cannot see these, unless you press enter to expand these. >Now, press the Alt key again. Up arrow once to get to the end of the >menu where we were with the settings. >You see exit, up arrow and you see the help sub menu, right under >the settings choice. >I press right arrow on this help sub menu, and you can enter on the >help center to get a lot of help using Chrome. >To open a web site, just press CTRL+L or Alt+D and type the URL. >Chrome for me, is so much quicker with web sites that involve >streamming TV and Watching movies, and so on. >For me, Chrome opens large news sites very quickly compared to IE. >Lastly, All JAWS and NVDA navigation key commands work in Chrome. >For example, you can press F7 to open a list of links with JAWS, and >the elements list with NVDA. All of that is the exact same. >This is the end of the tutorial. >Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >From: Dave Basden via Talk >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:39 PM >To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >Cc: Dave Basden >Subject: Re: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate > >I would like a copy of that tutorial as well. > >[email protected] > >At 03:07 PM 10/10/2017, you wrote: > >Hi David, > >Sure. Please send me that tutorial. > >[email protected] > >Thanks, > >Tom > > > > > >On 10/10/2017 5:31 PM, David Moore via Talk wrote: > >>Hi Tom! > >>I use Chrome all of the time! It is easier to use, much faster at > >>downloading files, and streaming media. It is very accessible. I > >>can send you a tutorial on using the Chrome browser! > >>David Moore > >>Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > >>From: Kevin Huber via Talk > >>Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 5:04 PM > >>To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > >>Cc: Kevin Huber > >>Subject: Re: Chrome, was: Firefox Updated and Unable to Navigate > >>Hi Tom: > >>I find that I am using it more and more often these days. > >>Give it a try! You might be pleasantly surprised. > >> > >>On 10/2/17, Tom Kingston via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>Has anyone given Chrome a serious look? I've never even tried it. So I'm > >>>curious as to whether I should even bother. > >>> > >>>Thanks, > >>>Tom > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those > of the author > >>>and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >>> > >>>For membership options, visit > >>>http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/hub > er.kevin7%40gmail.com. > >>>For subscription options, visit > >>>http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>>List archives can be found at > >>>http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of > >>the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >>For membership options, visit > >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jesu > sloves1966%40gmail.com. > >>For subscription options, visit > >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>List archives can be found at > >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of > >>the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >>For membership options, visit > >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/tom. > kingston%40charter.net. > >>For subscription options, visit > >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >>List archives can be found at > >>http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >_______________________________________________ > >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of > >the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > > >For membership options, visit > >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dave% > 40basden.us. > >For subscription options, visit > >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >List archives can be found at > >http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >_______________________________________________ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >For membership options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jesusloves1966%40gmail.com. >For subscription options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >List archives can be found at >http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > >_______________________________________________ >Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of >the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > >For membership options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dave%40basden.us. >For subscription options, visit >http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >List archives can be found at >http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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