I have been a long time JAWS user,  and when the free offer for Microsoft 
office came out, I switched to window-eyes, bought me eloquence and dectalk, 
and stopped using JAWS.
Before that, I started playing with NVDA but because I had used JAWS since 
2000, it was  hard to let it go. While I am the most comfortable with JAWS, and 
window-eyes was right behind it, I'm starting to pay more attention to NVDA, 
and regret that JAWS  is the option we're all supposed to go too.  There is 
also serotek's system access, and Dolphin's screen reader, and now that I think 
about it Screen reader and JAWS are about the same in features now. Both of 
them have the capability of doing almost everything the other can do, except 
perhaps, getting material from book share.
I know how you feel, and I know that sounds empty, but we do understand how you 
are feeling.
Thanks,
Darrell
 

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Wasn't it so, that someone is selling a Sapi version of Eloquence? 
Wonder if the company was named ATGuys, or something like that.


OK, not exactly as responsive as the dedicated one, but the SAPI version 
used to be a bit more clear sounding. And I seem to remember you could 
buy a complete version of the Vocalizer voices as well, for not too much 
money.


OK, by the time you have bought all the voices, maybe you are facing a 
bill much the same as a transmission to Jaws, but you at least can 
continue with Window-Eyes. Besides, the voices you now would be owning, 
are SAPI versions, meaning you could use them under any software; Like 
NVDA.


Go to Jaws, and sure you will get a number of voices and a couple of 
synths to choose from - but they are all incorporated with your Jaws, 
and can only be used under that screen reader.


Unfortunately, you sooner or later will have to deal with the fact of 
WinEyes dropping. We are quite a number who understand your frustration, 
and from time to time feel somehow similar. And things doesn't get much 
better, when you are forced on Win10, whenever upgrading to new 
computers. OK, they say the world is moving ahead, but sometimes we all 
wish it had moved a bit slower. Smiles. At least inside the computer 
industry.


Though no real solution to your actual issue, I hope the above would 
point you in the direction of getting something up running.


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> Many many years ago I switched from JAWS to Window Eyes for obvious
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> I can purchase an authorization code for Eliquence. Well you guessed
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> as we keep getting told over and over again, Window Eyes is no longer
> supported. I am also fed up with their tech support telling me I can
> switch to JAWS.
> My computer needs are not technical or involved, I am an educator, I
> write, I research and write some more. I have never used another
> screen reader other than Window Eyes and JAWS. It just makes me very
> angry that we are basically being forced to use JAWS.
> On top of this I have had it with HIMS as well.
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