Hi David!
I set this aside, because I had to stop being at the computer then, and
then I forgot to answer it, but want to.
Thanks for sharing your findings with Firefox. Several days ago, (it was
October 21), Firefox updated, and it's rather useless. Not only is there
just a ding and silence when I have MSAA on, and just being able to tab and
shift-tab through links only, with MSAA off, tried the invisible cursor
that is no help, and I have no menu system that I can find, so how can I
get to About/Help or settings?
I tried your numbered steps, and it doesn't appear to be a focus problem,
because none of that does any good either, so it's got to be Firefox. I
have not tried the business edition as someone posted earlier yet. I'm
running Windows 7 32 Bit with the latest version of Window-Eyes paid version.
Debby
At 05:01 AM 10/7/2017, David via Talk wrote
I do not want to start a new lengthy arguing over accessibility issues.
Yet, a few days ago, we had a discussion running here, as to the latest
version of Firefox - 56 - which some users had experienced issues with.
I did not have any intention in running into accessibility issues, and
hence told my Firefox never to update. It is done under tools, Options,
Advanced, and choose the update tab. Nevertheless, this morning when
starting my Firefox, it still updated itself. I got the message on the
screen, that the update was taking place, and though I could say a few
things about a setting in the Firefox options, which apparently is
nothing but useless - I had no choice but to let the update complete
itself. My reasoning was that first it insisted on upgrading, I could
always roll it back afterwards.
When the upgrading was finished, I checked under Tools, Help, About -
and the current installation says
   Firefox 56.0, 32bit.
I now have used it for a couple of hours, browsing around, and do see no
trouble with this version of Firefox, along with the latest (and last)
version of WinEyes, that is, version 9.5.4.
I do recall there has been a few comments about the 64bit version of
Firefox from the past. And hence i was wondering if the users who told
us not to update to the latest Firefox, due to their accessibility
issues, would happen to be running the 64bit version.
As an alternative, in attempting to see a reason for some experiencing
trouble in latest version, I do wonder if there could be a focusing
issue. Would any of you, who initially reported the loss of
accessibility in Firefox 56, maybe want to try the following.
1. Open Firefox, and go to any website.
2. Press Alt-D, as in Delta.
3. Press F6.
4. Try navigating the website.
Are you still unable to perform any action on the page? If so, check
under Help/About,and see if you are running 64- or 32bit version. Please
note, a 32bit software can be run perfectly well on a 64bit machine, but
you cannot run a 64bit software on a 32bit computer. Most computers now
aday, are 64bit machines, and yet, often you are encouraged to run the
32bit software, due to the 64bit technology being more vulnerable for
technical issues.
This is no attempt in advicing anyone, in their choice of browser or
version. I am just curious why some have reported their systems facing
issues, whereas my system had none. Could it even be there was something
going wrong in your updating process? Or, could it be due to some of the
add-ons you have installed under Firefox, and which no longer are
up-to-date, due to the new add-on policy of the Mozilla group? Try
starting your Firefox with all Add-ons disabled, and see if that solves
any issues.
Really, it would be bad, should a number of users ditch an otherwise
good browser, or abstain from updating, due to some misunderstood
accessibility issues. That's why, I decided to report my findings,
hoping to hear from others who could shed further light on what possibly
could cause issues for some. Perhaps we even could help them solve their
issues, and have them back up running the Firefox browser again; even
with last version of WinEyes.
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