So if I may ask you, what android products do you use, and would you be willing to give me a crash course in android? I'm really thinking about switching to an android phone, because My Iphone 7 has serious Voiceover issues involving the focus of items. I have reported, and reported, and reported this issue to apple, and with every update, it is not fixed. I have an amazon fire tablet, and I dare say, the screen reader on it is not that bad, plus it's a very affordable device. I thought about getting the essential phone, and going with that. Thanks for your help, Darrell
-----Original Message----- From: Talk <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:25 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> Cc: Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. <[email protected]> Subject: RE: `news about jws B J wrote in part: "When we bought a copy of Office that copy lasted and will last for years. I'm still using a 2007 copy of office on my windows 7 machine. If I had paid a monthly subscription for that length of time. I could have bought at least 8 copied of office." I'm in your boat, brother! I won't ever purchase any app that's subscription based even if the cost is 50 cents a year! Sounds horrible but I can live with it. Like B J, I have been using Office 2007; even though I received a note from Microsoft that support for Office 2007 has ended, it is still serving me well and I am yet to find a need for an upgrade to the latest Office bell and whistle. I read about folks struggling with something called Back Stage and how to disable it. Yikes, make an app better if necessary, just don't make it too complicated in order to get this done. I'm interested in knowing whether or not the laws in the books can be invoked when it comes to dealing with adaptive app and equipment companies. Look at Humanware; it created the BrailleNote Touch and deployed a deprecated copy of the Android OS on it; it still sells for more than $5,000! How about HIMS? It claims to run on Android 5.1.1 which will soon become deprecated as well. And it sells for $6,000! In both situations, no path for an upgrade and, worst still, the freedom Android offers is nonexistent. Example: In Android Land, you can install and use your own preferred TTS engine. What nonsense if I dare say so! For as long as is possible, I shall continue to look at products in the mainstream. As I slowly KISS WINDOWS goodbye, I won't have to worry about the shenanigans of screen reader developers for this OS! I will not pay one cent for any type of Jaws subscription. Until my WINDOWS machines all die naturally, I'll STICK WITH WINDOW-EYES which still PUTS SOME GREAT FOOD on my wee, small table! Sincerely, Olusegun Denver, Colorado _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Foptions.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com%2Fdgbowles%2540msn.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1069156dd17d431744bb08d5ad0312f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636605151066440567&sdata=E4Y9QKN%2FQO8mLiJr6oHE606ukIVtzAJZV9lgBcvOaFA%3D&reserved=0. For subscription options, visit https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1069156dd17d431744bb08d5ad0312f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636605151066440567&sdata=fdY%2BVECE%2B5JolMksh16owjcHzCEzVpxJByibOVOKxVs%3D&reserved=0 List archives can be found at https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.window-eyes.com%2Fprivate.cgi%2Ftalk-window-eyes.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1069156dd17d431744bb08d5ad0312f3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636605151066440567&sdata=RAUBBfjNyLVfwWV9jplhklc64S2VxUQsgbEjJ8gHuic%3D&reserved=0 _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
