Hi Carol,

Another hot key, comparable to that suggested by Tom, is 
Ctrl-Insert-NumpadDelete, which does the same thing as Tom's, except that it 
works for the colour of the pixel under the mouse pointer.
As such, it might help in situations where there is a graphical unit of focus, 
and so you could always just route the mouse pointer to the current focus using 
Insert-NumpadPlus, and then use the key I have recommended.

Good luck,

Rod

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Subject: Re: Word 2016 questions

Hi Tom,

This is very helpful.  I could do this with my Win7 pc, but forgot how 
it worked and needed it for win10.  It is good to know that the auto 
setting default is black.  As I have a black laser printer, I guess 
everything I print will be some shade of black, but this still would 
cause an issue for a file I would send to someone else.  Thanks.

As an aside, I am using Thunderbird and have turned on attributes.  At 
the beginning of each new line, a number is spoken (most likely the 
ASCII representation for that character) and then the color.  The funny 
thing is that almost every line has a different color, black on black, 
medium blue on blac, midnight blue on black, black on black, blue on 
black, etc.  I find this to be interesting.  Also, the speaking of 
attributes is only available in certain places.  For example, I can 
check attributes in edit boxes and documents, but can not check them in 
Thunderbird edit boxes.  Also, when I press control-delete and it works, 
it reads the number representation, the font size and foreground and 
background color.  When pressing it twice, it reads the same information 
and adds the color digital values for both foreground and background.  
This is interesting how things work from one machine to another, grin.  
Thanks for your help.

Carol


On 5/19/2018 1:10 AM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote:
> Hi Carol,
>
> The automatic font color is black unless (I assume) you choose a theme 
> with a different default color. You can check the text the caret is on 
> by pressing Control+Nulmpad delete twice. Pressing it once only speaks 
> the unicode value, twice speaks that along with the font name, size, 
> and color.
>
> You can manually set the default font to black. but it's a nightmare 
> and seems to have a mind of its own. I tried using Window-eyes, NVDA, 
> and Narrator. I only got the change to stick once out of countless 
> tries. I often got a completely different color than I thought I 
> selected. And when I selected black I got a slightly lighter black, of 
> which there are several to choose from. So I gave up.
> But if you want to fight with it, or you have a pair of eyes handy, 
> press Alt+H, F, N, to open the font dialog. If you can select the 
> color, then press the set as default button, select the apply to all 
> rather than current document radio button, and OK.
> This will make it the default for all new documents. But it won't 
> change existing documents you open.
>
> As for attributes? Press Windows+A to toggle attribute changes on and 
> off. You should hear that spoken.
> To set what you hear about with it on go into verbosity, common, 
> attribute changes. You can select what you hear and also make them 
> global or program specific.
> Note, the Windows+A hot key is specific to the Word set file. So it's 
> not global.
>
> Sorry, but I have no idea on the mailings and labels problem.
>
> Hth,
> Tom
>
>
> On 5/18/2018 1:57 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have Word 2016 on my Win10 pc.  I am using WE and would like the 
>> answer to a couple of questions.
>>
>> First, under fonts, the color selection there says auto.  I would 
>> like to make certain that my work is always done with a white 
>> background and black characters.  Of course, I understand the 
>> background color would be the same as the paper it is being printed on.
>>
>> Second, how can I get WE to speak color changes or other attribute 
>> changes in the event there are other colors used in imported documents?
>>
>> My last question for now is can I get WE to speak what is in the send 
>> to address edit box when working with mailings or particularly 
>> labels? Even though I put an address in the edit box, WE says it is 
>> blank or says nothing.  Right now, in order to enter an address, I 
>> must put it in my current document and copy it to the clipboard, open 
>> the mailings, labels option and focus the address box, press ctrl-a 
>> to clear anything in the box and press ctrl-paste to put the 
>> information in from the clipboard.  If I do not do it this way, 
>> sometimes, the label comes out blank and at other times, there is 
>> only one line of the address that gets printed.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
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