Told my it guy about it and also other problems and he said he  is going to 
reimage my machine  with a later build, hope that will work, since don't have 
that problem at home.

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 11:15 AM
To: Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk <[email protected]>
Cc: Tom Kingston <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase

Just go to the folder via the file menu, Explore profile folder in the WE 
control panel. Then Control+Insert+F4 or Alt+Tab back to WE and shut it down. 
Then run Narrator and make the change.

On 6/4/2018 10:01 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote:
> I was able to turn narrator now how do I get to the we folders? If you can 
> call me and walk me through it I  would appreciate it. 2128021633  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Larry Higgins via Talk
> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2018 9:29 AM
> To: Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk <[email protected]>
> Cc: Larry Higgins <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
> 
> Richard, just try this. Shut down WE, then run Narrator, and then rename the 
> folder.
> 
> 
> On 6/4/2018 7:44 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote:
>> Not letting me rename saying folder is in use. If  you are in the us. Call 
>> me at 2128021633 and maybe you can walk me through  this.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Talk 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> On Behalf Of David via Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 9:36 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
>> Cc: David <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: toggle and not whole phrase
>>
>> Or, you can get directly to it, by opening the WE Control Panel -
>> Ctrl+Backslash, then Hit Alt-F, and the letter E for Explore. You now
>> are directly in the WE Profile folder, and if you hit the Backspace key, you 
>> will go one level up. Here you can make your backup copy of the whole 
>> folder, and do your renaming if you so desire.
>>
>>
>> On 6/3/2018 2:44 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> The profile folder is contained within the following folder, that is, the 
>>> parent of the default profile folder  can be opened by typing the following 
>>> command at the Run dialog:
>>>
>>> %appdata%\gw micro\window-eyes\users
>>>
>>> The Run dialog, incidentally, can be opened by pressing Windows-R.
>>> Once this folder is open, you can highlight the folder called default, 
>>> which is the profile folder, and you can then rename it by adding the 
>>> characters .Bak to the end of the folder name, and then restart WE as Tom 
>>> suggests.
>>>
>>> Hth,
>>>
>>> Rod
>>>
>>> Sent from Outlook for the Mac
>>>
>>> On 2018-06-03, 2:09 AM, "Talk on behalf of richard kurlander via Talk" 
>>> <[email protected] on behalf of 
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>        where do you find the profile folder?At 10:53 AM 6/2/2018, you wrote:
>>>        >Sorry, Richard, but as I said, I have no idea what's causing it.
>>>        >It's very seldom that I see it. And I either re-open the control
>>>        >panel or reload WE. I can't even remember which.
>>>        >Is it doing this every time you open the control panel? Does it do
>>>        >it if you reboot and open the control panel with no other programs
>>>        >open? If so, I'd probably close WE and rename my profile folder to
>>>        >default.back and reload WE. It will create a new default folder.
>>>        >That's more or less like a soft reset without having to uninstall
>>>        >and reinstall WE.
>>>        >Tom
>>>        >
>>>        >
>>>        >On 6/2/2018 6:27 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote:
>>>        >>tom it's weird since on my machine at home using win ver 1803 at
>>>        >>work using win ver 1607 even when I am in keyboard settings for me
>>>        >>to hear the right thing I must hit enter twice very weird. do you
>>>        >>think something wrong with windoweyes defaults? tried reinstalling
>>>        >>that no luck.At 04:13 PM 6/1/2018, you wrote:
>>>        >>>I have seen this. But it's so rare I can't remember if I figured
>>>        >>>out why it was happening. I think just exiting the control panel
>>>        >>>and re-entering it solved the problem.
>>>        >>>If you're a sleeper, that is, one who never shuts down but only
>>>        >>>puts the system to sleep for weeks on end, a reboot or cold boot
>>>        >>>often solves quirky behaviors due to the inevitable memory leaks
>>>        >>>and other imperfections in an imperfect ecosystem.
>>>        >>>Hth,
>>>        >>>Tom
>>>        >>>
>>>        >>>
>>>        >>>On 6/1/2018 2:20 PM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote:
>>>        >>>>When I am in keyboard settings and you go to voice rate when you
>>>        >>>>tab you only hear toggle scope and not voice toggle scope unless
>>>        >>>>you press enter twice.
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