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-----Original Message-----
From: David via Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 1:38 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: David
Subject: Re: OT about digital book players
Though I have never tried it, with my Plextalk Pocket (first
generation), it should be possible to listen to Audible books. It
further is possible to download and listen to Podcasts, though I find
the feature not to be fully fledged. And should I want to, I can play
Librivox files. Even I can stream radio stations directly from the net.
Only thing is, I have to set up certain of it all, on my computer, and
copy it to the memory card, before inserting it into the player. Not a
big deal I find, for the usage I need.
Further, I do second the point about keys to push. Many users find it
far more sufficient, and I would be one of them. True, I do have a
modern cellphone, wiht touch-screen, and YES, i have tried listening to
different kinds of audio material on it. Yet, I do find it slow to
"search" my way around the screen, just to find the Pause-button, and
then having to tab it. How much quicker it is, to simply push a physical
button. At least, the buttons on my Plextalk stays where they are, and
do not move around - depending on the mood of the app developer, or any
new updates, fancy blinking icons, unspoken controls, or any of the
other stuff we so often are discussing on this and similar lists. The
day your app developer decides to change his layout, or the day he
simply stops developing, my Plextalk, or the Victor Stream, or any other
physical-buttoned equipment, will still have their physical design. You
have no such guarantee, comes to your Apple, Android, Windows, Linux or
whatever based tool.
Just a friendly question in here. If a user were to go for all that
touch-screen based stuff, why would he buy an IPod, or IPad of any kind?
I mean, I can do all that was described, directly on my Android phone.
So why even bother to carry around YET ANOTHER unit, for any of your
listening projects? If you are concerned about battery life, get a
battery pack, and it will make you listen to whatever intertainment, as
well as chatting away with your grandma for a whole week in length, all
directly on your phone. Since I have never had my hands on any of the
Apple players, what is it they offer, that cannot be offered on the cell
phones, now aday?
In general, when this kind of questions comes up, might it be an idea to
not only write all the praising of the great features of a unit, or
product line, but even to include some of the drawbacks. A clear-cut
black/white presentation - giving one product all credits, deeming the
others down - usually does help the one asking rather little. Sure, the
one product might be all that much better, but that does never mean
completely perfect. And what suits one, might be what bugs the other.
As a short note, I know Plextalk came out with a second generation
pocket players, a couple of years ago. They should have far more
advanced features for online listening, what I was told. Sorry, I don't
remember, but they were called something differently, but I could check
it up and get back, should such be desired.
Further you might want to check out the Electronics section, on the
homepage of FutureAids.com. They do have a player, specially designed
for visually impaired ones, with loads of features. It seems to be
based on the Vocalizer line of voices, which should give you certain
humanlike reading of textfiles. It does have somehow limited support for
certain file formats, but it all depends on what your needs are. And
since I have never held one in my hand, I am unable to elaborate more on
the product. Yet, they do have friendly and fast customer service, so
drop them an Email if you have any questions. Prices are affordable.
On 6/7/2018 8:50 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:
Yep, but isn't this a touch screen? Not everyone can work those things.
Give me buttons to push any day.
73
Butch
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2018, john schwery via Talk wrote:
Russ, I'm not saying that the second generation Stream is better than
the Ipod Mini but with the Stream, one can search for, download and
read Nls books and books from bookshare. One can also subscribe to,
download and listen to podcasts.
At 09:15 AM 6/7/2018, Russ Kiehne via Talk, wrote:
I took a lot of time thinking about if I should buy a commercial
one such as the second generation
victor reader stream. I ended up buying a ipad mini. Here's why:
It has more volume and better sound than my ipod touch, victor
reader stream
booksense and plextalk pocket. It does everything I would do with a
specialized player. With being able to lock the screen while
playing audio content, I get much more play time than with my
specialized
players.
With the bard mobile app, I can read nls books on it. Books can be
directly
downloaded to the ipad mini. This can't be done on my specialized
players
I currently own.
With the audible app, I can read books from audible. Books can be
directly
downloaded to the ipad mini. I can't do this with my specialized
players I
currently own.
With the Kindle app, I can read Kindle books from Amazon. I can't
do this
with my specialized playrs.
With the voice dream reader app I can read books from bookshare,
unprotected
epub, listen to old time radio shows.
Supported File Formats PDF, EPUB (DRM free), DAISY 3.0 text-based
eBooks,
DAISY 2.02 audiobooks, Zipped MP3 files, such as LibriVox, Plain
Text, Rich
Text Format (RTF), Microsoft Word, Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple
Pages, Apple
Keynote, HTML.
What's nice about voice dream reader, you can download books from both
bookshare and Project Gutenberg directly to the ipad mini.
I bought the optional neospeech voice to make it sound just like a
booksense
when reading any text based file. I can switch between Acapela and
neospeech. I can't see buying a second generation victor reader stream
inorder to download books from bookshare to it. With the
specialized players
I currently own, I can't download books from bookshare to them.
With the LibriVox Audio Books Pro provides free access to over 15,000
audiobooks and thousands of radio dramas with no ads. Each
audiobook can be
streamed over the internet or downloaded for later use.
Audiobooks from LibriVox are free thanks to the dedicated work of
hundreds
of volunteers who record, edit and distribute the books. New
releases are
prepared daily, and the entire catalog spans the breadth of world
literature, including novels, history, biography, short stories,
poetry and
more in both fiction and non-fiction.
The LibriVox Audio Books app makes it easy to search for free audio
books,
as well as classic radio dramas. You can browse by title, author or
genre,
look at new recordings, or search by keyword. Because the books are
free,
you can listen to as much or as little of a book as you like with no
cost.
The app remembers your position, so when you return to a book later,
you can
start listening at the place where you left off, and includes a
sleep timer
for your convenience.
To see the LibriVox catalog on the web, visit
http://librivox.bookdesign.biz
With the downcast app, I can download podcasts directly to the ipad
mini. I
can subscribe and unsubscribe to podcasts on it. With my plextalk
pocket, I
can't subscribe and unsubscribe to podcasts on it. With the other two
specialized players i currently own, I can't download podcasts to them.
My ipad mini is now my favorite device for reading books,
downloading and
listening to podcasts and old time radio shows.
-----Original Message----- From: BK via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2018 8:25 AM
To: gw micro
Cc: BK
Subject: OT about digital book players
Hello, I have a digital book player from NLS, but I would like to get a
commercial one. Can anyone recommend a good, sterdy, player for not
more than 400 dollars? All help is appreciated.
Butch
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