the biggest risk is the user.
clicking on links in the message and opening attachments. opening auvious spam
mail etc.
i don't know where to download the off line installation for wlm. but this
should install without microsofts permission. grin.
as far as google they want you to think that every email client is a security
risk except there own products.
you have to log into your google account and go to your security settings and
check the options to allow unsecure programs before you can send and recieve
google mail. google will block you if you don't do this.
this applies to wlm,thunderbird and severl versions of outlook.
-----Original Message-----
From: tony c via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 12:44 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: tony c
Subject: RE: email
I have a gmail account and it does work but there’s a lot of crap on the screen
that I really don’t want to weed thru everytime I was to check my email. Lol. I
don’t think you can download WLM anymore and it isn’t supported so there’s a
security risk.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 1:26 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Robert Ringwald
Subject: Re: email
I use WLM successfully with Jaws and Window-eyes both and it is free.
Lots of blind folks use gmail successfully, and it is also free.
-Bob Ringwald
-----Original Message-----
From: tony c via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 10:18 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: tony c
Subject: RE: email
It doesn’t work well with Jaws either, It’s useable but that about all I”ll
say for it.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Steve Jacobson via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 11:01 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: Steve Jacobson
Subject: RE: email
Tony,
I know of others using Windows Mail with some success with other screen
readers. Have you tried it with NVDA or Narrator to see if you have the
same issues that you are having with Window-Eyes? One of the issues that
will be faced for certain at some point is that other screen readers are
doing a lot on an on-going basis to keep up with changes to programs like
Outlook, and even Window-Eyes is still using a lot of the work done in the
past. It is possible that some aspects of Windows Mail could work better
with the right Window-Eyes "app" but it isn't that easy to make that happen
now.
The Becky email program is not free but is only something like $35 and there
is no charge for upgrades. You have to change a few settings and the
interface is a little different but I believe it is still working with
Window-Eyes. That might be worth a look and they have a trial period. You
can check out
http://www.rimarts.co.jp/becky.htm#download
but remember you have to disable the "Line Pointer" in the "edit" tab of
"general Setup and also the "Four Way Cursor" option in the Message tab of
the same dialog. This simply means unchecking the associated check boxes.
That program is still being updated but their updates seem to be very
carefully done.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:17 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
Cc: Rod Hutton <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: email
Hi Darrell,
Thunderbird worked great for me until Window-Eyes stopped tracking the
cursor.
This was the second email client which did this to me.
The previous one was Windows Live Mail.
Since I switched to Office 365 Outlook, this has not happened.
I know that Office 365 costs money on an ongoing basis, but Microsoft
regularly improves its accessibility, and so staying with it gives you the
best opportunity to use accessible email software on Windows and the Apple
Mac.
I know, I say this all the time. Smile
With respect,
Rod
Sent from Outlook for Windows
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Darrell Bowles via Talk
Sent: November 7, 2019 8:48 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
Cc: Darrell Bowles <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: email
How about thunderbird?
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk <[email protected]> On Behalf
Of tony c via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:13 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
Cc: tony c <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: email
I know outlook is accessible, but I don’t need office 365. I use very little
of anything except Microsoft word on a rare occasion. I just hate the mail
program that’s with win 10. I do use it but it’s not totally accessible.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: joseph hudson via Talk
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 2:49 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Cc: joseph hudson
Subject: Re: email
Hi Tony, Outlook is very accessible.
joseph hudson
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Hi, I need a accessible email program. I’m using the one that on windows
10, it is useable but just barely. Lol Tony
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