On Jan 12, 2008 2:10 PM, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 12, 2008 2:13 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > The world has an infinite diversity and we can't go inventing new tag > > > combinations for all of them. We need to think hierarchically, start > > > with the real defining characteristics: land/sea/road/rail/etc and use > > > subtags for the finegrained stuff. > > > > While this is true, it would not be necessary to stuff the hierarchy > > into the tagging scheme. > > > > Suppose you say something like this (just an example, not meant as a > > suggestion for real-world use): > > > > 1st level: natural=water > > 2nd: water=standing (as opposed to flowing) > > 3nd: standing_water=lake (as opposed to puddle, reservoir...) > > I'm not sure that's the kind of hierarchy I meant, but I think there > should be a top-level and stuff under that. A base-type + properties. > I'm looking at it from the point of view of a tagger. As far as I'm > concerned the difference between a dam and a reservoir is just a name > and should be reflected in the name tag. > > Let's say I'm looking at a satellite image and I see a body of water. > Is it a lake/reservoir/dam/blah? I don't know. Yet the proposed scheme > forces me to choose one with a 2/3 chance of being wrong. Maybe its a > type that has no translation in English, then I'm really SOL. > > I suppose what I'm contesting is the statement that natural=water is > deprecated. It covers all the impoartant properties needed for 99% of > users. If somebody cares about details they can add them but I object > to me being forced to care. > I totally agree with this sentiment. It should be possible to be vague about something when tagging it. There are several vague tags that I really like and use frequently (natural=water, natural=grass being my two favorites) that allow you to describe what you see without having to worry about whether it's a lake a pond or a reservoir, or a park a green or a common. In many cases there's no way of knowing or finding out, so these vague tags are very useful. > > Have a nice day, > -- > Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk >
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