Hi, I'm still a bit taken aback by the perspective of possibly having to cover any and all OSM data by a clickwrap or browsewrap agreement page. Yes I know all the arguments about long term freedom vs. short term freedom and so on, but if it comes to a situation where you have to register with us and confirm that you agree to some terms or other, then our site will look like the myriad of web sites that offer so-called "free" stuff but only if you trade in your privacy and only if you first read a 10 page license agreement (or you choose not to read it but then you have the guilty feeling of never knowing if you're still within it).
Such a practice would proably quickly land us on bugmenot.com; bugmenot.com users would then somewhat "illegally" access our site (at least they'd bypass our user authentication), and before we know it we'd have a lot of users who don't feel part of the project but rather feel that they have somehow cheated on us. Not a road I'd like to go down really, I'd like the project to receive people with open arms and not a little hole cut in the door where they first have to say the password... By accident I stumbled onto a boingboing post lamenting some browsewrap license: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/24/crazy-agreement-on-c.html Will I have to display something on my web sites in the future that says: "Note to OpenStreetMap contributors. READ CAREFULLY. By reading this web site, you agree to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies..." But bitter jokes aside, IF the foundation wants to continue this ODL stuff and actually initiate a license change, I would hope that it is made very clear from the beginning how the contractual aspect of the ODL will have to be communicated to the end-user and what restrictions this causes for anyone redistributing OSM data. Of course, the easiest thing, and the one I'd be happiest with, would be to just ask every re-distributor to mention the source and license, that would be no difference from today - but would that be sufficient to make sure that the guy who gets the data from the re-distributor enters into the desired contract? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00.09' E008°23.33' _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk
