Sebastian Spaeth schrieb: > Ulf, that is a crap argument. I know Fredrik well enough to say that > control is the least of his motives. ACK > What he is trying to convey is that > in most cases it just needs somebody to implement it the way we thinks > is right. And in doing so effectively provides a kind-of standard that > can be used. Our SVN is public, anybody can apply for access. In order > to add features you don't have to be able to program. > Yes, it's worse:
You need to be able to work with SVN You need to be able to install mapnik and/or osmarender (and on a Windows machine this IS a big problem :-) You need to know XML. For Mapnik you'll need to know how to setup the database For Osmarender you'll need to know CSS. ... What I'm trying to say: If you look a bit deeper it's not that easy. There's a reason that I only maintain the JOSM stylesheets (these are usually uptodate): I can't test mapnik/osmarender on my machine so I don't do changes here not to break stuff. > And you are arguing that somebody is trying to > decrease other peoples power? > By sabotaging the voting process he's actively doing so, yes. Very certainly not by intention but in effect. > What can Frederik do if you you add amenity=molehill to the renderers > stylesheet. He is neither maintainer nor judge on these issues either. > I remember some earlier discussions about rendering all map features on either mapnik or osmarender at a very high zoom level and the response was: "for heaven's sake, this would just look ugly - we don't want that". I thought it was a good idea to have concensus *before* doing changes, but (again) I just wasn't aware that the OSM way is: "change stuff in the SVN and hit anyone in the face who criticise your changes" ;-) > Lots of good arguments on both sides here in this thread. But this was > not one of them. > I'm taking back my argument about Frederiks motivation (I also know Frederik a bit), but the rest about control turns out to be more and more true. Regards, ULFL _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
