See example from UK: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~steve8/borders.jpg
Border between countries England and Scotland is one way (actually probably 
several ways), tagged admin_level=2.
Border between counties Cumbria and Northumberland is another way/s, tagged 
admin_level=6.
Implicitly the country border is part of the collection of ways that make up 
the Cumbria county border.
There is only one border there, and there only needs to be one "way".
NB: If you want polygons for areas you probably have to post-process the data 
to compile them or use relations to group them.
 
Cheers
STEVE

        -----Original Message----- 
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Beau Gunderson 
        Sent: Wed 5/28/2008 9:14 PM 
        To: Steve Chilton 
        Cc: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] National borders - mapnik
        
        
        Please clarify one thing:
        
           "any border that is both a state and national border should be 
tagged at the highest level (in this case national, admin_level=2)"
        
        To me this sounds like there is just one way for the state/national 
border... but...
        
           "and the state borders will come in too, with their appropriate 
style."
        
        This sounds like there are two ways, one for the state border and one 
for the national border.
        
        This seems to make the most sense to me given the second sentence 
quoted above.
        
        
        Beau
        
        
        On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Steve Chilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
        

                Logically, any border that is both a state and national border 
should be tagged at the highest level (in this case national, admin_level=2).
                Similarly in UK any border that is both county and country 
should be tagged at highest level (country, admin_level=2).
                That way all the country borders will show at designated zoom 
levels. When you move to a level that state (or whatever) comes in the country 
border will already be there (in its appropriate style) and the state borders 
will come in too, with their appropriate style.
                Currently there is an /Else filter which picks up borders that 
have no admin_level set, but it necessarily doesn't come in till higher zooms, 
which appears to the case for your example below.
                
                Cheers
                STEVE
                

                -----Original Message-----
                From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Beau Gunderson
                Sent: Wed 5/28/2008 8:42 PM
                To: Steve Chilton
                Cc: [email protected]
                Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] National borders - mapnik
                
                
                
                       The US national border with Canada is all tagged with 
admin_level=4, border_type=state, border=administrative... It also has the 
left/right countries (at least the bit I looked at in WA did).
                
                       How should state borders that are also national borders 
be tagged?
                
                       Does setting admin_level=2 fix the whole problem?
                
                       As you can see, they're not currently visible at low 
zooms:
                
                          
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.83&lon=-118.46&zoom=7&layers=B00FF
                
                
                       Beau
                
                
                       On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Steve Chilton <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
                
                
                               The latest mapnik stylesheet has the National 
borders moved from coming in at z10 to coming in at z7. Now zooms to z6 show 
the borders as thin blue lines taken from the shape files, and then switch to 
OSM data at z7 using a slightly thicker purple line.
                               Not all borders show, for one of two reasons - 
either they are not digitised or are not tagged appropriately.
                               So, it would be useful if folk have a look at 
their own country/area at z7.
                               Does in show correctly?
                               If not:
                               1 - check whether it has been digitised. If not 
- is there a valid, non-copyrighted source for putting in the border alignment.
                               2 - check whether it is tagged 
boundary=administrative, admin_level=2. If not - change the tagging to that so 
that it may show.
                
                               As a reminder, admin boundaries should be tagged 
for the admin_level that they are (at the highest level). Country/national 
borders are always admin_level=2. Internal borders should be tagged according 
to the suggested schema for that particular country. Details are on the wiki at:
                               
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:boundary
                               which also explains the accepted way to tag for 
the countries on either side of the border.
                
                               Cheers
                               STEVE
                
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