Hi, Ben Supnik wrote: > X-Plane would benefit from the existing shared data collection > infrastructure of OSM. OSM would benefit from a group of user's data > collection efforts increasing the fidelity of the map.
I'm all for adding aviation related stuff to our database. But keep in mind the license issue. Whatever you enter into OpenStreetMap is generally, currently considered CC-BY-SA licensed, no matter how trivial or factual the information is. That means if you later extract that data and combine it with something else into, say, a scenery file, CC-BY-SA mandates that the final product (the scenery file) be CC-BY-SA licensed as well - and that means *not* public domain, *not* GFDL, *not* GPL. This is ok for you as long as your other data sources are CC-BY-SA or of another license that does not have a viral componenent (PD, BSD, US gov't data), but as soon as your other data includes something that is viral itself, e.g. GFDL, then you have a collision that means the end product would have to be exclusively distributed under two different licenses which, of course, is impossible. If this is an issue for you, you would have to try and work with a "collected" instead of "derived" work, i.e. your flight simulator would have to individually read one file from OSM (CC-BY-SA licensed) and another file from other data sources (whatever licensed). That would work, but as soon as you combine both data sources into one non-separatable whole then the viral license applies. Martin Spott, of FlightGear, has from time to time raised this issue here but not received satisfactory answers I believe (google for flightgear and site:lists.openstreetmap.org). Unless X-Plane and FlightGear are sworn enemies, it would certainly make sense to try and join efforts with him! There is a planned change in license, and you'll find a lot more than you want to know about this over at our legal-talk mailing list (to which I'm cc'ing this), however I'm unsure whether this license change would make things easier for you. The key element of the new license is to allow "spin-off" products to have any license as long as any improvements made to OSM data in the course of generating the spin-off product are licensed under that same license, i.e. the new license attempts to go one step back in the production chain and affect the database that leads to the end product, instead of the end product itself. Another possible way out of the quagmire is to ask your contributors to explicitly state that everything they add to OSM should be considered to be in the Public Domain, thus effectively dual-licensing their contribution; but as soon as someone not on that list makes a nontrivial change to any of these data objects, they would again fall under the OSM license and be "lost" to anyone who wants to make a PD extract. I'm sure this is solvable somehow but you'll probably have to invest some brainpower to find a solution that works for everybody. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

