> In Presets->Ways all Hiking paths are highway=path, none of them is > highway=footway.
Don't know how JOSM presets are decided, but for me a : Hiking trail in mountains, where nothing else than you and your feet can pass, not because of right of access but because of physical restrictions could be tagged as : highway=footway OR highway=path foot=designated (as it is defined in the path proposal) sac_scale can then apply to both without problems. My choice, is, without problem highway=footway because I'm a lazy guy. #### If you don't want to read me arguing for or against path, then please don't read further. And after much thinking, I'll still use highway=footway, even if I weren't so lazy, because even if I like some aspects of path I'm still a bit unsatisfied with it. footway is ended a very fast way to say : "this if for pedestrians, and this is not, or might hardly be for other transport means" Something like a composite tag to say : Even if a bike is allowed to, he might hardly go there physicaly While on the opposite, path is clearer and seems to say : "I don't care about physics, I'm talking about right to do it" So tagging a hiking mountain trail where Mountain bike cannot drive with highway=path foot=designated requires an aditionnal tagging to say wether or not a MTB can physicaly goes on it The answer to that by adding bicycle=yes is not enough for me, because designated/yes/no/maybe/private is of a "right of access" class but not of a "physical access" class. I've been told many times, that no one cares if bicycle=no means that I can't go or if I am not allowed to go, since the result is the same But no ! that makes a difference to me that's worth tagging sometimes. - in case of emergency, let's suppose I'm on the top of a mountain with my bike, and a storm is comming. The fastest way down to the valey is accross a natural park where bike are not allowed. If I know the "path" down there is okay for a MTB, I'll use it for sure. Ok, my example is a bit extreme I admit I haven't found yet a more "common" example, but you see the point, and as of now, I can't use highway=path foot=designated for an hiking trail because it's missing something, that "to my mind" a footway covers. -- sly sylvain letuffe _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

