OSM in 2009 Took so little time For the lists to get so pissed But mercury is in retrogrades (and I don't believe in that, ok, anyways) Nothing a beer among comrades Wouldn't fix, mighty quick So welcome to all mappers and T B Lee A new year of maps, open and free!
-Mikel (I'm not saying that the rest of this thread should be poems, but I think it would help) ________________________________ From: brendan barrett <[email protected]> To: Frederik Ramm <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:37:35 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ... Perhaps my point hasn't gotten through properly. My intention is merely to convey that this kind of language "we're just a bunch of clueless fuckwits that are intent on buggering up everything", does not help someone understand this "API 0.6 has been available for testing and reviewing for a while now. If there is somebody willing and able to review it they will have done so by now". As a newbie to the project, this kind of language deters any kind of participation in this forum due to fear of retribution. How do you build credibility for a project when your public communications are degrading? Rather not reply at all. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Frederik Ramm <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > brendan barrett wrote: >> >> I'm not going to speculate on the fruits of such an exercise. My point >> is simply that if someone is willing to do so, then why stop them or >> belittle their effort. > > True, and API 0.6 has been available for testing and reviewing for a while > now. If there is somebody willing and able to review it they will have done > so by now, and we won't stop them or belittle their effort! > > This is different from asking around whether somebody perhaps knows somebody > who might be a database genius and who might perhaps be willing to lend us > his ears so that we can explain to him what OSM is about, what we've done in > the past, what we'll do with 0.6, and why and where we'd value his opinion. > We might go to such lengths if we were in really deep shit and didn't know > how to get out without external help, but I don't see a reason for that > right now. > > I'm also a bit offended by the fact that people seem to think that anyone > who has written a few RfCs must surely know people who can easily usher OSM > into a new era by applying their vastly superior knowledge - and that's in > spite of me not even having designed anything close to the heart of OSM. > > Finally, I think that Tim has a right to be a regular mapper like anyone > else on this list, picking his area of interest and doing a little work > there, without everyone challenging him to get involved more and to send his > friends and organisations to help. Has it occurred to anybody that he might > just be in it for a bit of recreation like so many of us? > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail [email protected] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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