According to the style rules of the Italian press, interviewers have a certain
margin to summarize in a striking short sentence the words of the person who is
interviewed, and put that sentence in the headline between double quotes. So if
Steve Coast is one day interviewed by an Italian journalist and that interview
is read by non-Italians, I'm afraid Steve's life will be at risk.
Regards,
Lucas
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another fantastic
1. Someone makes a mistake
2. ???
3. It's Steves fault
Bet you were itching to make todays Guardian mistake my fault too, eh?
I can tell you Frederik that I and the rest of us at CloudMade take
great pains to explain the differences between CM and OSM but it
doesn't always make it through. Instead of getting angry and writing a
long rant, why don't you just mail the author and cc me or something
in future, I'll happily back you up that they got it wrong.
On 10 Mar 2009, at 16:14, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> as an OSM community member, I'm taking offence at the following
> article:
>
> http://techpulse360.com/2009/03/10/startup-cloudmade-wants-to-be-the-wikipedia-of-maps/
>
> The article says that Cloudmade "relies on its OpenStreetMap
> project", and:
>
> "This is going to be the map of the future," says founder Steve
> Coast of
> his company. "We're the Wikipedia of maps."
>
> This is of course wrong; OpenStreetMap is no Cloudmade's project, and
> Cloudmade is not the Wikipedia of maps.
>
> Further down, the article suggests that Cloudmade money was somehow
> related to mapping the world:
>
> "But it's also a daunting task. The company raised $3.5 million from
> Sunstone Capital, but, well, the world is a large place."
>
> And:
>
> "Coast says the goal is to give away the mapping data for free and
> charge for services."
>
> Of course, there is no mapping data that Cloudmade could give away for
> free because they don't own any.
>
> I know that the press always write what they want (or what they think
> they understand) and not necessarily what you tell them. Also, to
> their
> credit, the Cloudmade web page clearly and correctly states that "We
> source our map data from OpenStreetMap, the community mapping project
> which is making a free map of the world".
>
> However, this is not the first time that the OpenStreetMap project has
> been confused with Cloudmade by the press, and I can hardly imagine
> that
> whoever wrote that article did so without relying on Cloudmade
> statements that somehow pointed in that direction.
>
> I would appreciate if Cloudmade PR people, especially in the US, would
> take more care in explaining the situation to the press, or if that is
> too much to ask, then at least refrain from misrepresenting the
> situation.
>
> If anyone is "the Wikipedia of maps" then it is the OpenStreetMap
> project which exists independently of Cloudmade. A very tiny portion
> of
> OpenStreetMap data is acquired during Cloudmade-sponsored events for
> which the project is grateful, but that does not give Cloudmade the
> right to act as if they own the project.
>
> I know that in the early days of the web, some access providers touted
> their dial-in plans as if the web was theirs - "buy our package and
> get
> access to all these cool sites". Maybe it is hard for the public to
> understand, but an effort should be made to say that Cloudmade is an
> access provider, not a content provider.
>
> I'll try to make it a habit to point this out in the comment boxes of
> the relevant web pages if I see articles like that.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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Best
Steve
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