Peter - are you really sure about geograph? AIUI only the photos are CC-BY-SA, the geolocation is OS-derived. Please check.
Sorry for crap formatting, moving house so on mobile. Richard Peter Miller-7 wrote: > > > On 18 Mar 2009, at 17:11, Lester Caine wrote: > >> Tim 'avatar' Bartel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> If we're going to cooperate with Wikipedia, then they need to >>>> cooperate with us by not allowing any dangling links. >>> >>> There are several reasons why this isn't possible, but the biggest >>> one >>> is the following: Wikipedia isn't controlled by the Wikimedia >>> Foundation but by the community. With whom do you like to make an >>> arrangement? It's pretty hard to make an arrangement with a community >>> consisting out of constantly changing people. >> >> That is probably the main reason who I would prefer to find an >> alternative 'location' to direct links to. And some useful suggestions >> have already been made. >> >> While I CAN appreciate the idea of our own wiki. That would require a >> lot more hardware. Viovio has several terabytes of images already, >> and I >> suspect wikitravel.org can probably top that. So sharing the load >> would >> sound a lot more sensible? > > As I see it there are a number of different sorts of 'associated' data > for OSM that needs a reliable and welcoming home somewhere: > > 1) Photos - these need to have locations and a direction or > alternatively two positions, one for the camera and one for the > subject of the photo. In addition to that it is useful to know when it > was taken and any special attributes, was it taken when it was > snowing, was it raining, is it a picture of something pretty or of a > defect or of a signpost or what. All of this information would allow > applications to decide which ones to use. A journey planner would show > pictures of the pretty things on the route but another application > might want to show defects to the local council or show illegal > parking to the police. So... there is a whole load of stuff to do with > photos , some pretty pictures of scenery can go in WikiTravel and > Viovio etc, but some of the other stuff wouldn't be appreciated there > and we might need to provide a home. > > 2) Articles - background information for a street, when it was > constructed, why, where its name came from and possibly plans for its > future. Hard to see who else would give this house-room. > > 3) Subjective information about ways - muddy in winter, poor lighting, > too narrow for a double buggy, very crowded on market days etc. > > I would like us to think about all this stuff. We need to decide which > bit below in Wikipedia (certainly the right place for articles about > towns), for Viovio (pretty pictures?), and which nerdy details about > traffic, pot poles, traffic signs and bus stop poles and origins of > street names belong in OSM and no-where else. > > Finally, lets not be frightened about the cost of another box and the > hosting because terrabytes and gigabytes are really cheap these days. > We have just bought a box with 7 Terrabytes of disk storage and it > cost <£100 per terrabyte. We are also about to import all 1,000,000 of > photos of geographic features in the UK from Geograph (all CCBYSA) to > see how it copes. > > Can I suggest that if we are serious about this that we get a wiki > page together with the brief for the project and see what it looks > like as we work on it. Does this project have a name and are in vague > agreement about the scope and the need? > > > Regards, > > > Peter > > >> >> >> -- >> Lester Caine - G8HFL >> ----------------------------- >> Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact >> L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk >> EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ >> Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// >> Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Alternatives-to-wikipedia--tp22574913p22588822.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
