On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Stephan Plepelits < [email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 04:36:58PM +0300, Tal wrote: > > Regarding the "official language", or more precisely, which of the > available > > languages to use, I've always felt that this is a rendering issue, sort > of. I > > mean, that this is a higher level knowledge that should be an input to > the > > rendering software, in addition to the osm db, much like the rule file. > This > > new knowledge, which might reside in the rule file, should not be a part > of the > > osm db. > I'm totally with you, it should be a thing for the renderer. But ... if you > don't know in which language the name-tag is in, it's hard to decide which > language to take. Here, I totally agree with you. That's why it should be strongly encouraged to ALWAYS tag what language a name tag is in. But there is no need to introduce a new tag for this (I did tried to suggest it once, as a temporary workaround, not as the ultimate solution). > > An example. I want a German map, but when there are no German names I'd > prefer English ones. > > No you encounter a street: > name=Bergstrasse > name:en=Mountain Road When you tag names without specifying the language, you get yourself into troubles. why not tag as: name:de=Bergstrasse name:en=Mountain Road > > Which text do you print on the map? I think we need a way to tell the > renderer which language(s) are used for the name, ref, desc, ...-tags. > And actually I don't see a political problem, because it just adds some > additional information about something which is already there. I agree that's nothing political, and there is some information missing. You propose to add this information in the following way: name=Bergstrasse name:en=Mountain Road local_language_used_in_name_tags=de I think it complicates things without a goog reason. I solve it as I've shown above: name:de=Bergstrasse name:en=Mountain Road > > > And in cases where you have several languages in the name-tag you should > use the same order for the language-tag. (That doesn't have to imply any > "importance" or what-so-ever). I'd like to draw some attention to http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1643 It adds a "preferedLanguages" parameter to osmrenderer rule file (or as a command line option): assume preferedLanguages=":en,:de,,:he" when osmarenderer need a "name" tag, it will use the first available tag of the following: name:en,name:de,name,name:he
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