Paul, thank you for being the first to respond to my post with the new subject :)
OSM wiki is a great resource and really does clarify a lot. Meanwhile it is "work in progress" like all wikis and still leaves some space for possible confusion here and there... The reason for my question and proposal is that there is a lot of confusion and discussions between Russian OSM members on what should be tagged as a 'living_street'. I am personally not a supporter of mapping all garbage collection ways :) But residential areas in Russian cities are full of public un-named ways that are an important means for getting to the destination, sometimes via a long and complicated path. And traffic rules applicable on these un-named "streets" are very much the same as for the named living streets. So it is really important for navigation software to know about them and treat/render them appropriately. Please have a look at this picture: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Residential_area_way_1.jpg . Officially it's an un-named way in a residential area. Does it qualify as an alley? ;) What is the right word for it that you would pick as a native English-speaker? The most discussed questions are: - is having a name really important for an object to be a 'living_street' (say, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dliving_street explicitly suggests no 'name' tag for a 'living_street' in Belarus) - is being marked with a "residential area" traffic sign really important for an object to be a 'living_street' ("living street" traffic rules may be implied on certain ways without any signs) - what may be other important characteristics of a 'living_street" as compared to "service" Any feedback is most appreciated... Regards, Sergey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - 'living_street' USHAKOV, Sergey wrote: [...] I honestly don't see where the confusion is. Alleys occur in all kinds of districts throughout the world, the type of way doesn't change purely on inductive reasoning alone. If it's a back alleyway where you're not expected to do more than find hidden driveways, garbage and delivery access, and maybe off-street parking, it's not a living_street even if all the ways around it are. Wikipedia isn't the best example making a judgement call on this, either; our own wiki is much better in this regard. Our wiki has tagging examples and graphics that seem to make it pretty clear that the living_street tag applies only to ways that are actually living_streets, not all ways in an area. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dservice http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Living_street > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

