On 2 Sep 2009, at 20:30, Peter Körner wrote: > Sybren A. Stüvel schrieb: >> On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:17:11PM +0200, Peter Körner wrote: >>> A revert is changing a lot of things in one time, which would be >>> much more time-consuming with e.g. josm. I see this (doing a lot of >>> things with just a single click) as the main problem with an easy >>> revert tool without some kind of vote. >> >> In that case the entire API should be scrapped. After all, I can >> easily make some small program > You can do as, but with a webservice that takes a changeset-number > in a > form and offers a revert-button, everybody can do this.
Yes, I would like to see a revert function available to which I could give a changeset to and it would revert all the changes made to the database within that changeset. It must flag the changes as being made by me and being made using that tool (I must take responsibility for the decision to revert and the tool must also be identified as it has some responsibility for the quality of the revert). Would the tool be something that ran on my computer? Possibly. A good tool will need to be able to do this even when some changes have been made on top of the changeset and possibly highlight a few issues that cannot be reverted because of conflicts. A good might be able to review all the changes made by a particular user over a period of time and list the status of the features before and after to assess what the user is doing and if there is any sense to it or what. It should be possible to revert multiple changesets by one user in this way. A good tool might be able to monitor the minutely diffs and identify unlikely behaviour, such as someone randomly changing names for features that have been stable for some time, or moving nodes around that have been stable for some time. This is just a warning, not a definite problem and would need to be assessed. A good tool might be able to monitor the minutely diffs and check names against a 'swear list' to check for unlikely street names and locality names etc. Not all rude names are incorrect as the book 'rude Britain' can testify but it is worth checking.[1] The camp sites at Burning Man have some very offensive names as well. A good tool might be able to import a 'white list' of trusted editors and then focus the attention on unknown contributors in the minutely diffs feed. There would need to be a way for trusted users to give trusted status to others or challenge it and share lists. A good tool might spot users breaking coastline or motorways or railway lines or administrative boundaries or other very established features and highlight this for review. This tool should be configurable so that one can monitor only a part of the world that one is interested in, or only feature types that one is interested in, for example railways in Europe, or everything within a bounding box. A good set of tools will allow us to revert vandalism within minutes. Please can a bunch of coders get on with producing support for this important work. We have remarkably little graffiti but it does exist and will get more of a problem. It is such a shame to see vandalism messing up a lot of good work and we risk loosing established contributors unless we can protect the work already done better than we are doing. We will of course have some revert wars, that would be a sign that we had the technology and needed to build the social infrastructure to control its use. Currently we don't seem to have the technology to revert changes where changes have been made on top. You could check the tool on the edits made over the previous two months by Liam123, some of which have still not been reverted for lack of a suitable tool to achieve it. [1] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rude-UK-Exposed-British-Passages/dp/0752226657 Regards, Peter > Peter > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
