On 9/20/2009 3:52 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Timothy C Litwiller<[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I didn't find a newbie list so I've been reading the wiki and this list >> for the last week. >> > Welcome, Tim. > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > ;-) > > I don't know how busy that list is, so I signed up too. > >
Thanks - I don't know how I missed that. >> I've been working on streets in and around Wichita and Newton, Kansas >> for the last week, it seems there has been little done since the tiger >> data import, as most freeway(motorway) intersections also connect >> directly to the crossing street. I've been disconnecting and making sure >> that the entrance and exit ramps match the yahoo image. and adding >> bridges to the appropriate way. >> > Excellent start. Changing arterial streets to highway=secondary will > help give the city some context. > Lots of the streets have abbreviated types. OSM wants Road instead of > Rd, and Avenue instead of Ave. That's tedious work though. Change > them as you touch them, I guess. > > Add parks and rivers to give the city some warmth. Add points of > interest like businesses to get other locals interested in helping. > > >> But before I do to much damage it would be nice if someone could give me >> "constructive criticism" if and what I am missing and if I am doing >> things correctly. >> > Wow. Okay. > > >> see this area >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.6777&lon=-97.3922&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF >> and >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=38.0556&lon=-97.3127&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF >> > I don't see glaring errors in my quick glance. If I was really picky > I'd say this > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/13092530 > > should have a node intersecting with the railway marked as > highway=level_crossing. The node is currently beside the railway. > > >> I haven't even started describing lanes etc. You current discussion of >> lanes on bridges is very interesting and I am assuming some of it also >> pertains to lanes in a city setting. >> > Consider that thread an arcane discussion of edge cases that will > likely not enter your world. You'll see similar threads on other > topics. > > >> also - more questions about roads in a rural setting. >> >> we have dirt and/or sand or gravel roads every mile - I think I'll put >> surface=unpaved and surface=dirt, is there a preferred way to designate >> , like the UPS and Fedex men have maps, of which roads are not passable >> when wet? >> then about about every 5 - 10 miles there will be a county road that is >> very rough pavement and between towns or out to the state or US highways >> there will be a better paved road, then the US or state highway will >> lead out to the interstate freeway >> >> so help me make sure I understand these levels >> interstate freeway = motorway >> US highway = primary >> state highway = secondary >> good county highway = terterary >> or >> county highway = residential surface=paved smoothness=good >> poor county highway = residential surface=paved smoothness=bad >> > The exact correlation between tags and legal designation only exists > in England. The rest of us have to wing it. > See a full discussion here > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging > > Use the wiki for guidance, use your judgment to adapt for local > conditions. Tag more carefully when changing the work of another > editor than when changing the work of a robot (or adding new > material). > > >> graveled& sand road highway= track? surface=unpaved >> dirt road = highway= track? surface=dirt >> > Sure. > > >> if it is not passable when wet is there something else to add or will >> surface=dirt be the key >> then of course once in a while there are roads that have signs "minimum >> maintenance" they aren't even good for bicycle travel - tractors and >> 4wheel drives are all that go there. >> > Take your best guess. Signed "minimum maintenance" sounds like it > needs to get tagged. I'm not sure how. > > >> nearing a destination you might want a gps device to use the county >> highways in a route but certainly not route thru them unless you had to >> use them to get to a particular stop. and the gravel or dirt roads you'd >> want to not route at all unless there was no other way to get to that >> stop - ie the stop was not on a paved road. Is there something that >> would key that. >> > That is up to the routing engines. Tag what you can see and others > can verify. Highway= is a good start. Surface= adds some important > cues. One man's "bad route for travel" may be another man's "scenic > drive", so creating access=destination where no legal restriction > exists seems mean. > > Welcome to OSM. Looks like you are already having fun. ;-) > > Best regards, > Richard > Thanks, I am _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
