> > > Yeah, OK Dave, we've got the message, you don't free-format tags. > > > > +1 > > -1. Don't confuse anarchy with chaos. SteveC is our leader (and > should behave as such by Giving Advice), but he's only our leader so > far as he gives Good Advice.
I wish to be more plain. I think that SteveC should be taking a more active role in decisions. He and just I had a conversation in which he explained that he's tried doing that, and just gets flamed for being overbearing or evil or trying to push Cloudmade's interests. This is wrong. There are times when any project needs leadership. It's unreasonable for us to expect that every open source project leader will be willing to subject himself to ad-hominem arguments. We need to stand up for our leaders, and when they're being abused, we need to defend them. If we don't do that, then we'll get what we deserve: no leadership. I'm tired of this silly true/false 1/0 yes/no up/down left/right in/out fore/aft port/starboard debate/debacle. It's trivial, it's stupid, we could just as easily toss a coin as engage in any rational debate about how binary values should be expressed. This is just wrong. If SteveC says that "mountain=green" means that first there is a mountain, and that "mountain=blue" means there is no mountain, then damnit, we should do it that way. Now, that implies a certain amount of trust in SteveC. And yes, I do trust him. Why? Because *I* invented OpenStreetMap first. I invented it, and I thought about it, and I fantasized about it, and then I moved on to some other project I was more likely to actually complete. SteveC didn't. He FAILed to FAIL. It was the hardest thing to do. He ACTUALLY DID IT. And from that act, he deserves substantial respect and trust. I'm not saying that we should kow-tow to him. When he's wrong then we should call him on it. But NOT for LEADING. So, Steve, would you PLEASE tell us what the canonical binary true and false values should be? And when you're done there, would you choose one of the schemes for marking a highway or a bridleway with no name? -- --my blog is at http://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-323-1241 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
