Hello Michael, What route type do we talk about? If you cannot build foot or bicycle route through specified street, then yes, this is navigation engine bug, and I will add it to CloudMade ticket system. If talking about cars, I still do not prefer routing over "motorcar: private" streets - Nic Roets described the reasons quite clearly.
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Michael Eric Menk <[email protected]>wrote: > On 05/27/2010 12:53 AM, Nic Roets wrote: > > The 'private' tag is used quite often and will be quite tedious if a > > user needs to specify what roads he may access as an owner before he > > can use the system. So from a practical standpoint, it makes sense to > > treat it as a road tagged with 'destination': > > As i wrote. Access only to property OWNERS, and not "Kjøring til > eiendommene er tillatt", witch is the text on destination driving > sub-signs. > > > I haven't considered all these issues last time I looked at my code > > that handles it and it still interpret 'private' as 'no'. Perhaps the > > same thing happened to Cloudmade. > > The access in question clearly says YES, so I do not see the problem. > > >> access: no > >> bicycle: yes > >> created_by: JOSM > >> foot: yes > >> highway: service > >> motorcar: private > >> name: Munkebotn > >> note: Middelalder stamvei (ridevei) > >> old_name: Den Trondheimske postvei > >> start_date: 1600 > >> > >> http://osm.org/go/0Rv01LEg?layers=0B00FTTT > >> > >> Is there a problem with the tagging, or with the routing-software? > >> > >> > > > > Or they don't want to take the risk > > that one of their clients will do something silly, get a fine or get > > arrested and then face all the legalities and / or bad press. > > > > Just some notes about Norwegians access rules (for those who are > interested). > > You may not restrict access to anyone that's non-motorized in Norway, > except if: > * Their access makes damage to you property > * Their access is a danger to them self or others. ( security perimeter > and "walking on the motorway") > * National security (Military bases &c) > * Your garden. *) > > *) Courts have ruled > that 7 meters from you house is to far away to restrict someone access > to walk on a path though your property, witch the house-owner considered > his garden. > > As far as I know, we do not have a word for trespassing in Norway. The > closest we get to trespassing laws are. > * You may deny people to set up camp for more the 48h. > * You may deny people to set up camp closer than 150m from a building. > * You may access to people when their actions damage your property. > > So, if you are a programmer of a routing software, you can conclude > that: Foot and bicycle have access to ALL paths and roads unless > otherwise specified. > > -- > Michael Eric Menk > Linkedin: http://no.linkedin.com/in/mikemenk > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Best regards, Popov Anton. Senior Software Engineer, CloudMade. Mobile: +380 68 358 52 13 Skype: popov.work Google account: Popov.UA.work MSN: [email protected] ICQ: 461751798
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