On the wiki, we need to clarify some places definitions after some recent (or not) changes:
place=locality: at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality: - "place tags are for either populated areas, or for larger areas of County sized or bigger" (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality). What is a county ? Is it not a definition to give only in countries where this concept exists ? It seems that germans decided that it is now a populated place where it was clearly specified as unpopulated in the past: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:place%3Dlocality&oldid=65610 Sorry if I missed the discussion/decision about this important point, I didn't subscribe to all country specific mailing list. at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place : - "Places that have a specific name, but do not necessarily have any geographic feature centre". (population = 0). Yeap, very clear, isn't it ? at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places - "An unpopulated, named place." which is the original definition place=isolated_dwelling: at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place: - "the smallest kind of human settlement" (population = not more than 2 households). Okay, why not. I'm not against new tags, I'm against ambiguities. at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places - missing place=farm at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place: - "A distinct identified farm at the node so tagged. In some countries the official type of a residential area smaller than a hamlet". Oh dear. But is it not "isolated_dwelling" now for "residential area smaller than a hamlet" ? at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dfarm - "A farm can be a part of a human settlement (place<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place> =* like hamlet, village, town) that have buildings and land for farming, usually a few central buildings around a landuse<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse> =farmyard <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmyard> with landuse <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse>=farmland<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland>or landuse <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse>=meadow<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dmeadow>surrounding it. If the farm is not part of a bigger settlement (regarding structure not administration) and the farm and comprising settlement itself is not bigger than defined for isolated dwellings in your country, use place<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place> =isolated_dwelling<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Disolated_dwelling>.". Ah okay. If it is isolated, use "isolated_dwelling". And if it is part of an hamlet, village, town, why the hell are you using a key place to name the landuse=farmland ? why not simply the tag "name=*" ? If it is a manufactory, not a farm, do you tag it landuse=industrial + place=manufactory ? I don't understand. It's probably too simple. at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places - missing. To avoid advertising ? ;-) Pieren
_______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
