Le mardi 27 juillet 2010, à 15:45:46 +0100, David a écrit : > Hi,
Hi david, and thanks for your comprehensive review of syj. I'll try to adress your points. > I got a server error trying to save on my first attempt. Retrying it worked. Good catch. I could reproduce it once. Then I could not reproduce it anymore :( I hope I will be able to fix it soon. > > How do I get a URL of my route to share with someone? Presumably it > is just the URL in the address bar after a save, but a "give me a > URL" button or some such would be handy. I'm not sure a button is the right way (I don't want to clutter the interface too much), but I need to give an easy way to get route url. > > If I'm looking at a route, how do I then start a new one - there's > no button for that. Ah, I just click "main page", but I think that > will not be obvious enough. you're right, link text probably needs to be changed. > I think the need to login (or rather, create an account) is > EXTREMELY offputting. It's the biggest single reason putting people > off a website in general. I don't see why you need it - can't you > store IDs and/or names without? (Or even encode the route in a URL). > Like bit.ly for example. > > Perhaps just offer logins for people who want their stuff kept > private, but from my POV I'd just like a way to quckly sketch > something and hand the URL to others. And why do you need my email, > other than to make the registration process even more complicated? I > might like to have the URL emailed to me, but I think it would be > better to offer that as an option The main reason a login is needed is to prevents spam or database attack. What happens when some random scripts send 10 http posts a second ? What if that happens while I'm offline for a week ? So, the registration process acts mainly like a captcha: I'm pretty sure there's a human involved at some point in the process. Note that I only have experience administrating small sites, so my point may be not valid. For example, may be I can use a captcha if user is not logged, and not use a captcha if user is logged. Anyway, I've tried to make the registration as easy as possible: you don't have to go to another page, and you don't have to validate immediately. > Do you need a "Save" at all? Why not save it live as they do it, so > all you have to do is harvest the URL at the point you are ready. I'm a big fan of live saving on desktop applications, but don't like it for web pages: it induces a lot of http requests and you need to try to "guess" when the user is inactive (because I don't want to save dozens of times when user drag and drops). In a previous projects, I had even tried to send an async request on page unload. That did not work very well :) > > I don't think you need the home page to be .../idx. Just the website > address is more conventional. I'll fix that > I would use something like this probably more to share a point or > points than routes. I think you could improve it a lot by allowing > separate points (and disjoint paths). Having labels and annotations > for points (a la OpenStreetBugs) would be even nicer. great idea, but that will need some more work, and also, a lot of thinking about the ui. I put it on my long term todo list. > A much more complicated suggestion: for routes, allow snapping to > points and ways. Obviously that requires a *lot* more in the works > than just the map background which you're drawing on. Yes, it would require a lot of work, but the main reasons I don't want to do that for syj are: - some paths are not in osm, and I want people to be able to show a path, even if it does not exist in osm. - depending on your mean of transport, you may want to snap bicycle ways, horse ways, footways, or car ways. If in your area there are a lot of different ways, snapping the right one may become easier.
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