Hi Serge,
On 2/10/2010 12:04 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
Now my opinion of any potential OpenStreetMap fork.
I think such a project would fail, and here are my reasons why:
If failure is the opposite of success, what are your criteria for success?
2) The forkers don't agree on the reason to fork
True.
Others want a
whole new map that's (effectively) public domain (whether that's CC0
or CC-BY, or something else)
Yes.
If you believe strongly in "public
domain" geodata, you won't find BY-SA acceptable,
Is this really the case?
I actually investigated the use of public domain principles - however
Australian copyright law does not allow it. The best we can do is a CC
BY with zero attribution. If there's anyone out there who can let me
know why zero attribution is not a good enough substitute for public
domain, I'd like to get in contact with you.
3) OSM has external organizational support
OSM now has organizational, government and commercial support. That's
something none of the forks will have.
I beg to differ.
CommonMap (the CC BY of which you write) definitely has Australian
Government interest.
CC BY-SA suffers from a flaw that government cannot take back anything
from the community. And any support given by government (from what I've
seen) applies equally to CC BY repositories as well.
I haven't seen anything from the forkers that gives the average user a
compelling reason to switch. The average contributor doesn't care
about whether the license is CC-BY-SA or ODbL. And since OSM has the
mindshare, developer mindshare and financial resources backing it,
it's likely to remain ahead.
Again, all depends on your criteria for success.
Just having a one stop shop for public sector geodata would be
achievement enough from a personal perspective. The ability for all the
local knowledge to be fed back to government is certainly icing on the cake.
Thanks,
Brendan
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