Am 31.10.2011 11:29, schrieb Janko Mihelić:
The question is, can you run your own tile server for less money than
the Google's payment model. If you can, OSM is for you. If you can't,
google maps is still ok.
Well I don't want get this to political but whats wrong when pointing people to MapQuest/Cloudmade? They offer tilehosting for free. And yes you are right, if you want to setup your own service (cause you aren't that small and already spend money in own servers) you can use a own instance of our rendering stack. Sounds like you get an option, that you never had before, right?

Matthias

Janko

2011/10/31 Matthias Meißer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Yes I guess this trend will come and I realy want to slow down your
    action Stefan :)

    But on the other side we had problems with servers last weeks, so
    why not pointing to the Tile usage policy in the same way? To me the
    "OSM is a free project, but the server ressources are not" is quiet
    easy to understand for everyone and this might prevent new devs who
    would change over to OSM (to fast), from killing the servers. We
    already had the case, that a few single Apps alone blocked the tile
    queue and the wiki and of course this situation is bad for the Apps
    as well.

    But this is just my personal idea. Anyway its always good to promote
    OSM :)

    bye
    Matthias

    Am 31.10.2011 <tel:31.10.2011> 01:06, schrieb Stefan Keller:

        Hi


        I was alerted by a large national search company telling me that
        they
        are using G* Maps but now they are glad to know that there
        exists OSM
        as an alternative (to what has tbd.).

        And there are also blogs saying that smaller developers will be hit
        too, especially when their innovative website becomes more
        well-known:
        See this article:
        
http://www.netmagazine.com/__news/devs-respond-google-maps-__api-limits-111510
        
<http://www.netmagazine.com/news/devs-respond-google-maps-api-limits-111510>

        So my thought was too to make a press release - but without
        bashing G*
        and without referring to the restrictions (see e.g. here
        http://code.google.com/intl/__uk-UK/apis/maps/faq.html#tos___pricing
        <http://code.google.com/intl/uk-UK/apis/maps/faq.html#tos_pricing>
        ). I
        would rather remind that OSM is "free" (under the license terms) and
        that the OSM data and tools are there to be used in own websites.

        Yours, S.

        Am 30. Oktober 2011 19:11 schrieb Matthias
        Meißer<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

            As I pointed out in my blog post, I would be happy for
            everbody that takes a
            review in the data and it's processing ;)

            But yes I understand thats not good stuff for a press
            relase. But on the
            other hand it makes no sense to me to enforce a PR just for
            glee. As I noted
            in some Google article it's not that clear how consumers are
            affected, cause
            do they make use of the API?

            Matthias

            Am 30.10.2011 14:00, schrieb Phil Endecott:


                Matthias Mei?er wrote:


                    Well, another aspect for a press release might be,
                    that OSM has
                    limited resources as well. Maybe this visualisation
                    and analysis of
                    the tile usage by Apps would be a good starting point:
                    http://www.openstreetmap.org/__user/!i!/diary/15190
                    <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%21i%21/diary/15190>


                Friends, please don't do anything at all, let alone a
                press release,
                based on Matthias' data. It might not be as reliable as
                he hoped.


                Regards, Phil.




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