+1

it's nowhere close to a standard to split lanes. It is just a plate of 
spaghetti. hard to edit and maintain for no good reason. If it where anywhere 
where I care I'd just revert that.




On Jan 23, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:

> On 1/23/2012 9:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> Over the past couple of months, I have armchair-mapped several highway 
>> junctions in the United States which are "commonly complex" in that they 
>> involve multiple turn restrictions, street name changes and pedestrian 
>> crossing placements.
>> 
>> I would like to have some critique from someone experienced in mapping such 
>> junctions so that I ensure I am following current best practice and am not 
>> just creating a bunch of plates of unpalatable spaghetti.
>> 
>> Two recent junctions are found in the following permalink views
>> * http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.095879&lon=-75.296179&zoom=18&layers=M
>> * http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.128273&lon=-77.237731&zoom=18&layers=M
> 
> Yuck. A separate way should not be used for a turn lane (unless that lane is 
> separated by barriers or maybe a wide striped-off area).
> Corollary: a separated right-turn lane begins and ends approximately where 
> the traffic island begins and ends, not where the separate lane begins and 
> ends.
> 
> Turn restrictions are not for identifying which lane goes where. They are for 
> restrictions on turning (e.g. if no left turn is allowed, you use a 
> no_left_turn restriction). Thus neither example needs any restrictions, since 
> you can turn in any direction from any approach. (Some mappers like to use 
> what are, frankly, completely redundant restrictions that force you to do 
> what any router will have you do anyway, such as no right turn at the 
> intersection if there's an island-separated right turn lane.)
> 
> The second one is a simple crossing of two divided roads, found all over the 
> place (e.g. 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.38582&lon=-81.506134&zoom=18&layers=M - 
> note if you check against the aerial that the west-to-south right turn has 
> recently received an island).
> 
> Of course the above is just my opinion, strongly influenced by what I have 
> seen as standard practice all over the country.
> 
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