In a case like that, I would expect that the geometry would then be the issue and retracing would be required. I suppose a potential workflow would be to look at an objects, see what tags are CT-clean and then trace a new object with those tags.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Kate Chapman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 7:18 PM > To: Paul Norman > Cc: openstreetmap; nicolas chavent > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions. > > This is going to require some analysis, but I believe all of the > decliners were tracing from satellite imagery. So the specific tags > added would have been detailed information about those objects. > > On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Paul Norman <[email protected]> wrote: > > If it wasn't you surveying it, you'd have to verify that nothing > > remained of the decliners contributions. Just because someone surveyed > > something doesn't mean that they surveyed all the v1 data (for an > > example where v1 was from a > > decliner) > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Kate Chapman [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:18 PM > >> To: Michael Collinson > >> Cc: hot; OSM Talk > >> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian > exceptions. > >> > >> Much of this data has already been ground surveyed. Would it be > >> possible based on the source tags to mark things odbl=clean? > >> > >> I think that would take care of a large majority of the problem, > >> since there has been so much on the ground work since the earthquake. > >> > >> -Kate > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Michael Collinson <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > On 02/02/2012 16:23, Larry O'Neill wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi All, > >> >> > >> >> Apologies for any overlap in recipients for this - I very rarely > >> >> post to mailing lists, so I am not sure how wide a net for this > >> >> issue would be appropriate. > >> >> > >> >> There was a discussion on the #osm irc channel recently about the > >> >> possibility of approaching non-agreers to the new CT about any > >> >> data they may have contributed to areas where the removal of such > >> >> data could have a negative effect on our humanitarian efforts. > >> >> Looking for example at how much data we stand to lose in Haiti, > >> >> this is something that may limit the difficulty of those that are > >> >> on the ground in these places and struggling to remap. > >> >> > >> >> The possibility of haing a bounding box around areas such as these > >> >> was mentioned - and there is aparantly a precedent for a users > >> >> data within a BB being retained. > >> >> > >> >> Any thoughts, comments, or points? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Larry O'Neill > >> > > >> > > >> > Hi Larry, > >> > > >> > It looks as though there are no specific licensing issues as > >> > regards base data/photos used in Haiti [1]. The issue appears to be > >> > confined to mappers who have been active in the area but have > >> > either declined or not yet responded to requests to re-license? [2] > >> > > >> > We will need their individual permissions, the simplest way being > >> > just to ask them to respond to the new terms. Friendly, courteous > >> > messages coming from individual mappers working in the same area > >> > have been highly effective in a number of countries. I would expect > >> > it to be doubly so here. We can then revisit the issue in say, two > >> > weeks time > >> and see if anyone is left. > >> > > >> > I am immediately going to ask for a Haiti/Dominican Republic link > >> > to be added to http://odbl.de/ and http://odbl.poole.ch/ Then you > >> > can just read off the names and status. > >> > > >> > Meanwhile, you can use the OSMI License View tool to get started. > >> > Here is an incomplete list I just grabbed using it: > >> > > >> > Exponent, Brent Miller, cetest, osmapb1, Tinono, rendle, Tinono, > >> > EvaStern, robbert, Sidneyleenen, Elle_M, DDDarek, veugelke, Mirko > >> > Küster, Eddy Frometa, Alfredo Gil, Jochen Plumeyer, llibre > >> > > >> > It is good know their status. You can do that by feeding them into > >> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/xxxx or seeing if they are on > >> > > >> > http://odbl.poole.ch/central-america-20111208-20120201-poly.html > >> > > >> > This wiki page can be used to coordinate efforts: > >> > > >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL > >> > > >> > Please do not hesitate to coordinate with us at > >> > [email protected] . We will do our best to assist. > >> > > >> > Mike > >> > License Working Group > >> > > >> > [1]. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue (Appears > >> > to be only Digital Orthophotos) > >> > > >> > [2] > >> > http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-71.35913&lat=18.2230 > >> > 9&z > >> > oom=7&opacity=0.69&overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_cle > >> > an, > >> > wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_lin > >> > e_m > >> > odified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_ > >> > cp, > >> > wtfe_line_created > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > talk mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> talk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > _______________________________________________ talk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

