Hi,

I welcome a discussion about rules - which ones we need, who makes them, who executes them. It is clear that we need *some* rules, but until now there's no formal community process to create or amend such rules.

I'm happy to hear any suggestions that people might have. How can the will of the community be caputured and distilled into a rule - and where should we work without any rules? In what areas do we have to have rules that govern all of OSM, and in what areas can we afford to defer to local communities?

On 18.09.2012 11:08, Christian Quest wrote:
This is a major governance problem for me, some guidelines are updated
by someone on a wiki page (Nov 15th 2011 by Richard
Fairhurst), something that was a recommendation becomes
mandatory and then some contributor get blocked based on this wiki
page edit that comes from nowhere.

Just to clarify this one point: The user had been contacted by DWG beforehand because he had imported several millions of objects under his account, and asked to continue his work in accordance with the import guidelines, using a separate import account. He ignored that request and was only blocked *after* that.

DWG does not usually block people without talking to them first, unless they are in the process of breaking things.

DWG does also not usually require people to use a separete import account if they are doing small imports (even though the policy does not mention an exception for small imports). This, however, was orders of magnitude above "small".

My questions are:
- Who decided this change (recommendation -> requirement) ?
- What has been the process that lead to this major change ?

I don't think it is a major change, but anyway I think it would be wrong to make a big fuss out of hurt pride and focus on that one single requirement. Anyone who is unhappy with the current import guidelines is invited to propose and discuss a change; and anyone who is unhappy with how such guidelines are adopted and executes is invited to propose and discuss a change there as well.

DWG has also been looking for someone from France to join its ranks in order to better liaise with the French community in case of problems like this but we haven't had any applications.

Bye
Frederik

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