On 02/02/2013 22:07, Paweł Paprota wrote:
On 02/02/2013 10:23 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Threats to leave the project remind me of the bullshit thrown around
 during licence-change when hardly anyone actually had the balls to
follow through. If people are so unhappy then go, but do so quickly
and quietly and leave the people really interested in OSM to continue
making the very best map database we can.

So you don't acknowledge that there are people (like me) who are "really
interested in OSM" and same time they are discouraged by a situation
like this and are considering leaving the project?

By your logic either everyone has to STFU and agree with the actions of
OSMF or they have to leave the project because they are not really
interested in OSM.

Paweł

Everybody volunteers their time and knowledge but the existence of a board at OSMF doesn't simply mean that some volunteers are now more equal than others. (Organisations frequently rotate through board members.)

Thinking about structure, some discussion should be given as to OSMF possibly converting to a co-operative structure - it's the perfect type of organisation to benefit from a co-op arrangement, either an IPS Mutual, BenCom or even workers co-op. People can be nominated to represent the org but ultimately they are answerable to all Members. It can also seek investment and those members can also gain one vote (irrespective of contribution) in company business.

As it is, OSMF seems notionally answerable to the greater OSM community after being nominated to oversee its concerns and become custodian of the equipment, run outreach projects, fundraise etc. The board is elected by just 358 paid OSMF members from (we can only assume) the OSM community (of thousands? Tens of thousands?). The work they do is fabulous and contributes to the continuation of OSM but there's still not, that I can see, a sufficiently stable framework in place should this arrangement change.

If OSMF decided to function differently, selectively disregard the community or even operate oligarchically as 'benevolent dictators' what could be done? Not much short of an insurrection or establishment of parallel service with a new name as they hold all the cards. A worldwide project deserves membership representation and answerability of the controlling board.

My concern here comes from seeing other community organisations torn apart by subsets of nominated people who initially took charge, ran it with some vision, decisiveness but when they got cold feet or wanted a change, the organisation inevitably ran onto the rocks through lack of continuity and attrition. It's often very hard to resurrect a project or organisation once it's ground to a halt.

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