If you want to be able to specify more details like during which period the name was used, maybe it's an option to add it to wikidata.
Polyglot 2014-03-19 22:15 GMT+01:00 Brad Neuhauser <[email protected]>: > You can enter whatever language codes you want in the Multilingual Map > Test, so for Finnish just enter "fi" in the text box. (ex: > http://mlm.jochentopf.com/?zoom=7&lat=52.57802&lon=19.11621&layers=B0T&lang=fi > ) > > To the original question, there is the old_name tag, which is documented > on the name page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name) and has > almost 90000 uses ( > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/old_name#overview). In addition, > the name page mentions the option of old_name:<lang>=* which might best fit > what you're looking for. (there are even some uses of old_name:fi=* > already: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/old_name%3Afi) > > Cheers, Brad > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Laurence Penney <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It’s great to have such things mapped, but it does need care. >> >> In this field Jochen Topf coded “Multilingual Map Test” together back in >> 2012. You might ask him to add Finnish to the languages offered. >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2012-November/065312.html >> >> Here’s part of Poland, shown with German labels: >> >> >> http://mlm.jochentopf.com/?zoom=7&lat=52.57802&lon=19.11621&layers=B0T&lang=de >> >> While the larger cities have well-known and current German names that are >> uncontroversial — Warschau, Posen, Breslau, etc. — many small towns and >> villages would only have been given German names during the Third Reich. >> >> It is therefore contentious to use the “name:de” tag for these places, >> unless one is making a map of occupied Poland during WW2. The naming was a >> political act, and most of the names were not used by Germans, even those >> living in the vicinity, before 1939 or after 1945. Taking politics out of >> it, perhaps one could use the date to indicate when the name was in use, >> thus a key of “name:de(1939-1945)”. >> >> It would be good to speak to historians who specialize in this area. >> >> - L >> >> On 19 Mar 2014, at 20:37, Chris Helenius <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> How are historical place names from annexed countries regarded? Or put in >> another way; when does a name no longer exist? >> >> In the case on Finland, which lost Karelia to Russia in the 1950s, >> hundreds of place names were translated and are now officially Russian, >> with the Finnish population gone. >> Former place names could nevertheless be of historical value (e.g. to see >> the geographical extent of the language), as physical historical features >> are. >> >> The question is, does a name disappear when it is no longer used? Larger >> cities are still called by their Finnish names in a Finnish context, so >> would towns and villages be any different? Or when they are deserted? >> >> There is also the unignorable issue of geopolitics, as there are still >> tensions between the countries. >> There is no shortage of geographical naming disputes ( >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Geographical_naming_disputes), >> and wikipedians themselves had a row over geographical names. ( >> http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/02/05/China_Japan_Wikipedia_War_Senkaku_Diaoyu?page=full >> ) >> I can imagine how the naming could be seen having a political agenda. >> >> For what it's worth, my agenda is only historical, although I can't shrug >> off my national bias. >> Before I go and add name:fi= place-names, I'd like to hear what the >> community thinks of this. >> >> Chris Helenius >> _______________________________________________ >> Historic mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > >
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