I have been proposing a very similar idea, where OSMdata would be used for data that is not suitable for the main OSM database, but is not notable enough for Wikidata. For example: link objects to other databases, adding stuff like restaurant reviews, creating categories which are not suitable for relations and so on.
But the way I thought it would be used is to add a new item to OSMdata, and then link it to OSM with its OSMdata ID, "osmdata=Oxxx". That way the link to an object would be stable, so if you convert a node to a way, you just copy the osmdata id. Your proposal to just shift the whole database to OSMdata is interesting. I think a dynamic link could also be possible. OSMdata could just query the main database when you ask it for N40983. It doesn't have to have a copy of the whole database. Janko Mihelić 2014-09-12 11:41 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni <[email protected]>: > Hi all > > The (long) discussion about importing Wikidata tags in OSM has > prompted this idea into my mind: > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMdata > > I have also describe here in the IdeaLab on meta-wiki: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/OSMdata:_a_Wikidata-like_editor_for_OpenStreetMap > > Here's a quick summary: > > == What == > * using a MediaWiki + Wikibase - let's call it OSMdata[*] - install to > host an item about every single object in OSM (following this schema > Nxxx for nodes, Wxxx for ways, Rxxx for relations). > * claims in a OSMdata page about an item map exactly to key, values > pairs for the same object in OSM. > * OSMdata is synchronized and kept up-to-date with the OSM database (read) > * users can login in OSMdata with their OSM account and contribute, > adding new claims this are saved back automatically in the OSM > database (write) > > == Rationale == > * it seems awesome (!) > * the OSM community gains a new editor for OpenStreetMap, an editor which > use a well known interface and which can get all the benefits of > MediaWiki+Wikibase software development > * Wikibase is tested at 60x its current scale > * Wikibase is used in another big project > > Let me stress again that I see OSMdata as being an editor, not a > repository for OSM, in fact I image in it to be a specialized editor > to be used for editing tags. > In my view the idea is to provide a well known interface to edit OSM > (both manually and automatically with bots, using the same bot > frameworks already available for editing Wikidata). > > I have described this idea in the talk-it malling list (in Italian) > and a (at least conceptual) similarity has been pointed out towards > the textual editor Level0[2]. > > I would like to know your opinion, and I would also like to set up > some prototype with a small subset of the data. I tried to set up this > myself but, unfortunately, I am blocked on the first obstacle, i.e.: > how can I tell Wikibase to let me create items with names Nxxx, Wxxx > and Rxxx instead of Qxxx? I do not know enough PHP (nor MediaWiki or > Wikibase) to do this myself. Any help in this direction would be much > appreciated. > > Ciao, > > Cristian > > [*] any reference to Wikidata is purely intentional > [1] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2014-September/044540.html > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >
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